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Mapping Pyongyang: a work of patience

Shocking of such patience and perseverance, but looks like North Korea still has so much to accomplish, this is a long and lonely march

I’m more curious about how you deal with the offset problem than this, because when I’m mapping some megacities (such as Beijing), it can’t be completed within a few years, and the base map provided by esri/maxar will be drawn three months later visit again, even if it is the same base map provider, there may be errors with the previous ones due to re-shooting. Have you ever dealt with similar problems during the drawing process?

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Похоже, этот лес уже поправил @Grass-snake . (Looks like this forest already been fixed by @Grass-snake )

Diary .... why ??

diary feature looks like a blog for mapper wrote and share something interest and useful, such as meetup record, coding and map related technology, etc.

长沙西部山区的混乱

@Z_Empty 目前HOTOSM的任务面板可以用来实现这种功能,但HOT的面板更多是用来进行人道主义救灾或者某个区域的地图亟待更新需要召集大量mapper时用,如果需要的话或可尝试以中国社区的名义申请HOTOSM上发布分区协作任务的权限,然后把长株潭(或者整个湖南)都分块

苏州市快速路道路类型被错误更改

JOSM代理有问题的话可以这么设置一下

clash and josm

苏州市快速路道路类型被错误更改

OSMwiki上基本是被这位更改成高速路类型的编辑者改的,用户名StarBG,欢迎直接去相关changeset下面对线

(此外欢迎进群 t.me/osmchina 这位也在)

Circle

Discussion about this round forest in Russia had also been talked in Telegram, here is reply by a deleted user:

I’ve chosen easily recognizable shapes only because it’s looks cool so that no one gets confused edit borders with an actual natural borders. Eventually this shape would get buried under more edits, Probably when the AI took over this task. And the shapes are non-visible at useable zoom level anyway.

Initial idea was to avoid mapping forest entirely but bunch of swamps and rivers on the white canvas looked awfully noisy.

You can see https://t.me/OpenStreetMapOrg/92768 for more context.

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osm.wiki/OSM_purity_self-test

If your score is high enough, it’s time to rest, XD

Finding SEO spam in OSM

I usually remove the promotional information from this element because it is shameful to advertise your business through a community that is editable by everyone, it should only retain the most basic and neutral informations like name=* and phone=* (or etc.)

Mapping of runways

Yes, the idea @adreamy pointed is also interesting, since the centerline of the runway was “designed to follow this line”, it could somehow represent the abstract “runway”?

Mapping of runways

Retaining a line may be helpful for the computer to deal with the most basic “this is a runway”, otherwise data users will have to calculate this line based on the long and short sides of the area?

Let us search for WEM in China

无中生有的东西,你再帮他说一遍,你等于…这个东西…你…你也有责任吧。

Volunteer Oprotunity: AI Transcription generation for OpenStreetMapsUS

Is there currently a dashboard/statistics of which videos have been transcribed?

osm_easy_api - Brand new Python package for parsing osm diffs and communicating with the osm api.

submit it to Weekly OSM

WeeklyOSM to be released this week (usually at 10AM UTC every Sunday, which means that it is not a few hours away) has already collected news about osm_easy_api: https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/article/28238 So stay tuned :)

By the way, is it possible to have emails sent to the Dev list automatically posted on the community?

osm_easy_api - Brand new Python package for parsing osm diffs and communicating with the osm api.

I’m glad to see this diary, I’m the author of another project Keqing (although the repository is currently owned by the organisation, I’m the only one who mainly maintains it), although it started very early but I’m only coding in my free time, because There are still many features waiting to be implemented, so I haven’t dared to introduce it to others. osm_easy_api looks very well developed, so I’m afriaid that I’ll be “reinventing the wheel” in my Keqing package. I actually noticed that we may have already worked towards the same goal, for example on parse data and quick extraction of data that have specific tags. Of course, I don’t have confidence in my own code, my implementation is also not concise enough. As the author of an OSM-related library also based on python, do you have any suggestions on how to reduce duplication of work I’m doing and calling between those 2 package each other?

(Besides, also looking forward to your comments on my humble work)

OpenStreetMap is in trouble

(Reply to @Adamant1 ‘s comment above, diary/400909#comment54304) Indeed, I may have had unrealistic expectations of Bing’s set of tools, I should realize that it is a commercial company after all.

(to @Adamant1 ‘s comment /diary/400909#comment54306) Maybe it is possible to review the edited mapper’s account? Similar to previous organizational edits?

The only other way to feedback the edits into OpenStreetMap would be if Microsoft did mass imports of their users’ contributions every couple of months or something, but doing it that way is clearly a non-starter.

Hope that doesn’t cause a lot of conflicts with editing in between these months. So I hope that Microsoft will do more in terms of open data. I’ll continue to see if the content I’ve previously edited with Map Builder in a number of different countries

OpenStreetMap is in trouble

I don’t know what it is, but you’re right - it looks like the edits have stopped appearing.

If this is because Bing is organizing their mappers to gradually review all contributions from Map Builder, then I think this is acceptable and hope this is confirmed, then I will retract my previous allegations and really apologize

Hope to find such evidence and possibilities as explanation.

OpenStreetMap is in trouble

(Continuing from the above response to @Adamant1)

And in my opinion, what we are discussing is different from issue between OHM and OSM, because OHM stores a lot of ancient administrative division boundaries, demolished objects, and they don’t meet the requirements of on the ground rule in OSM. That’s the difference.

OpenStreetMap is in trouble

@woowoowoo @Adamant1

There may be some misunderstandings here, but I must point out that my question against Bing exists on a moral level rather than a legal level. Yes, Bing can do this from point of license view, including all of us here cannot prevent its use data licensed under the ODBL - if Microsoft correctly signs the OpenStreetMap contributor attribution correctly.

Why I still have to say they are hijacking OSM is because If these edits are not contributed back to OSM and just stay in Bing’s own database, but still see data from OSM was shown during the Map Builder editing process, it will make people mistakenly believe that their edits are actually being contributed to OSM, that is why I think Microsoft Bing should be criticized - unless Bing can get this part of the edits back upstream in some form.

If they can do it, I apologize for it

OpenStreetMap is in trouble

The only attractive thing about it for me is its anonymity, it is difficult for the government to trace the identity of OSM editors

I changed my idea, those many edits I‘ve made the other day through Bing’s Map Builder have never entered the OSM database in any form yet, so Bing is hijacking OSM