Sorry for the typos in my earlier comment. I'm not Thai and I mixed up parts of those names, LOL. When I typed Ban Pha Tong, it should have been Ban Tha Pong, Wat Tha Pong and Wat Tha Pong School.

Well, the center of the town might be a little further north but, yes, it is the correct name according to the Thai Topos I have. Also, there are some sois there that I recorded yesterday that have the names Ban Tha Pong Soi 3 and Ban Tha PongSoi 10. In addition, Wat Pha Tong and Wat Pha Tong School are just SE of where I placed the node.

After reviewing the position of the existing node for Ban Den, I moved both nodes further north to more closely agree with JOSM's Thai Topo overlay map.

One other thing: The Thai Topo overlay map omits the word "Ban" from the names of both villages but other maps I have and the Soi names I observed persuaded me to use the full names "Ban Den" and "Ban Pha Tong".

Does this answer your question?

I was surprised and, to be brutally honest, a little bit dismayed to see this import in Alaska. It's good to have a source of data to fill in empty regions in the vast area occupied by Alaska but the NHD rendering of rivers drives me crazy. Thousands of little segments, most unnamed, some comprised of two nodes connecting two other short segments. It's simply horrible. I have done a ton of correcting of these blasted imports over the years but life is short and lately I haven't the patience to do what needs to be done. Plus, some of the water features I added a few years ago were overwritten by the NHD data.

Sorry to be so negative. I appreciate the amount of work you did to make this import happen but sometimes I wonder if NHD imports are worth the amount of effort they require to make them accurate.

Okay, thank you.

It seems obvious to me that there is not a ditch to carry a large stream in a remote region in Alaska so I'll assume it is simply an error.

I will fix it. Thanks for your rapid reply.

Hello,

Did you change the Chilkat River from a water=river to a waterway=ditch? (By the way the river is incorrectly named — it's actually Jarvis Creek.) But I cannot imagine that the waterway you tagged is actually a "ditch".

Can you clarify your reason for tagging it that way?

Correct. None of those tags were added by me. Unfortunately, the tag history doesn't go back far enough to indicate the original mapper.

There might be a way to determine the originator but if there is, I am not aware of it.

Hi again Mateusz,
I checked all my OSM messages going back to 2012 and did not find anything about those tags or the mapper's identity.

I might have contacted him via a changeset comment but it was so long ago that I gave up searching.

IMO, you should go ahead remove those weird tags when you see them.

It is indeed a legacy tag but was placed there by a Thailand-based mapper to help him compile Garmin-compat maps with the mkgmap program.

It's long past time to remove them.
I also inquired about them and he asked me to please leave them in place, and I did.

This was not my tagging. There is, or was, a Thailand-based mapper who created these tags years ago. I also inquired about them and he (I can't recall his name) asked that I leave them in place. IIRC, they were to help him render some object(s) using the mkgmap program.

Feel free to remove them.

I believe that particular road is a borderline case. It might allow two cars to pass if they drive slowly and cautiously, but if a car and a small truck were to attempt that, one would have to come to a complete stop. In this case, your suggested tagging seems fine. Easier perhaps and less controversial would be to simply eliminate the lanes tag entirely and toss in an estimated width. Easier still: tag it with lanes=1 and let it go at that. The latter was my choice in this case because I wasn't aware of the more modern tagging scenario.

Thailand is very different from most other places because it has a large percentage of narrow streets that defy the usual logic for determining lanes. This makes for difficult tagging decisions on OSM. Check out this photo I used for my blog a number of years ago:
How would you tag this one?
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/7a6noujdbe3rf19f7210q/Two-lane-road-Thai-style-IMG_2459.jpg?rlkey=daat2m5nxj5uisyumfoktwtzd&dl=0
I'm not doing nearly as much mapping as I did a few years back and I don't subscribe to any mailing lists, so thanks for the update and the information. I will add those tags to my presets and use them when appropriate.

I typically change the lanes tagging only if I've seen the roads myself. Thailand has very narrow sois and in this neighborhood, that's the case. If two cars must slow down before meeting on a road, I tag that road as lanes=1 even if there is a dividing line (as is often the case).

It's almost laughable that some of the sois in my neighborhood (and that one) have a lanes=2 tag because they are definitely not two-lane highways.

Happy New Year!

Hello,
I've been working in the area covered by this changeset and I see many errors. You have described a huge area as landuse=orchard when in fact, it is a mixture of scrub, and aquaculture landuses.

Not only that but you failed to create multipolygons to allow for the many ponds (aquaculture ponds) to be properly rendered.

I have been correcting your work as I go. I will spend more time correcting these landuse errors later today but it is a lot of work for me, work that you should have done better in the first place.

Please use more care when outlining and describing objects. Sorry to be so harsh but you need to be a lot more careful.

Dave

Hi Jiulien,

Yes, please feel free to update those highways. I haven't checked back on any of my now out-of-date tagging. Lately, I'm not doing as much mapping as I once did so I don't come across these old tags very often.

Oops.

I must have screwed something up when I was adding the second side of the carriageway.

Hopefully, you were able to fix it Johnny.

Hi Julien,

I was in Doi Inthanon park this morning driving around on the back roads. There is a hamlet that you named Ban Khun Ya (18.4389123, 98.5248006). I believe that hamlet is actually further southwest on that highway. I base that decision on a road sign I photographed that said the town was 12 km distant. When I measured the road segment from that sign it ended in a different town, as yet unnamed, here (18.42927, 98.504549). I believe that is Ban Khun Ya.

Your comment says you read the name from a sign. My guess is that what you saw on the sign wasn't at the town center but perhaps marking the northern-most boundary of Ban Khun Ya. I did not drive all the way there so cannot verify whether it has signage or not but I feel certain the town is where I've indicated.

Interestingly, the highway leading to it has a Kilometer 0 marker right at the junction of the park road that goes to the campground. It is ชม. 7094 which I have tagged as such. It's a funny place for a highway to start IMO but there are many mileposts (metal flags) along the way.

Best,

Dave

My apologies,
That way was not meant to have any name at all. My mistake. I must've tagged it by accident when I was adding the other actual old_name:en on the way intersecting with Huay Keaw Road.

I removed it.

Russ,

If you're asking me, I say yes.

There's a note tag on the way, and in it I say that the name came from a physical sign (which happens to be at located at the junction of 121 and Huay Keaw Road). I recall that sign and it's a fairly small government-issue sign that isn't obvious, but yes, it's real and verifiable if you want to take the trouble. Also note that it's tagged as old_name:en, not name:en, so it will seldom if ever render on any normal map. It's merely a historical fact about the "Canal Road" that I found interesting and wanted to include in OSM.

I wouldn't invent a name just because I felt a name tag was mandatory. I also don't believe adding a "helpful" E or W to a route ref is appropriate unless the route is signed as such, e.g., Route 90 S. But I've never seen that sort of nomenclature in Thailand. Have you?

I hope this alleviates your concerns.

Dave

Relax. It was a mistake. I map in the U.S. as well as Thailand and I merely forgot to download data to a new layer.

Hi,

There is a large way ( id:769510142) with about 1700 nodes that is untagged. Did you forget to tag it? Ordinarily, I would have removed it immediately but seeing as it's such a large addition, thought I'd better contact you first.

Cheers,

Dave

I don't add anything to Google Maps since I started mapping for OSM. Never fear, they will get that data if they want it.