Go you one better: people talk about geogit, and I think osm should embrace the concept. distributed data sets basically equate to layers. Svg rendering means lighterweight maps.

Mix the two concepts, you appease both camps: routing can be owned by multiple providers, whomever you choose. Specialized maps? Just add layers and styling. You can offer tools to easily render/integrate external capabilities on the core site, and let commercial interests promote as needed.

Right now the best we have is mapbox with ‘improve this’ links; but what could we do with a dedicated effort and open standards for layering/widgets provided?

Sorry for your loss.

You might be interested to know more about Mike’s contributions.

You can see how his focused on places he knew and expanded over the years. http://yosmhm.neis-one.org/?zoom=7&lat=53.76065&lon=-1.77102&layers=B0T&u=Miked29

A lot of his recent edits are focused on buildings, there’s a good chance he was contributing to something like http://osmbuildings.org/?lat=52.49899&lon=-1.96484&zoom=15

Indirectly, a lot of people will benefit from the time and effort he invested - be it people using car navigation systems, hikers, cyclists, planners, or many, many more.

The ‘add a note’ control could really use a tooltip or similar that says “Add a note… about a problem”

Yeah, Place ftw.

https://github.com/CloCkWeRX/openstreetmap-website/tree/add_schema_org - turns out to be fairly straight forward to do very simple mappings.

The logic required is most likely going to be for things like - Where there is a wikipedia key, translate to full URI - Opening hours, if valid, should translate differently - Where there are multiple valid schema.org mappings (building=foo, amenity=bar, parking=yes) returning an array of valid properties.

With the RDFa vs schema.org question, I was aiming at using the schlema.org vocabularies expressed as RDFa lite - http://schema.org/docs/datamodel.html

I’m not as sure about an OSM specific vocabulary. Linkedgeodata.org already does a translation of our schema, which is in flux at any given time; and while openstreetmap.org based triples are arguably more authoritative, is there value in simply repeating the same assertations?

My gut feel is “maybe not” - for the semwebbers that want to use the data, linkedgeodata is likely good enough; providing SPARQL endpoints, browsing services and more.

Mappings at: https://raw.github.com/GeoKnow/LinkedGeoData/master/linkedgeodata-core/src/main/resources/org/aksw/linkedgeodata/sml/LinkedGeoData-Triplify-IndividualViews.sml

My main argument for using schema.org to add value would be to: * Mint mostly stable URIs for POI (osm.org/node/1937862511 looks like a resource) * Focus on the core enrichment of records where we know an end user will actually benefit. * Make it really easy to go from “rich record presented in a search” to “update information”

An alternative might be to enhance nominatim with similar details ( http://open.mapquestapi.com/nominatim/v1/details.php?place_id=20457411 ) - that’s pretty much a structured data browser page right now.

So, you’ll want to grab a piece of software called TileMill, and the ABS 2011 postcode boundary set, in all likelyhood.

Tilemill will let you make a stylesheet and preview your images, as well as add in basic data.

easyoverpass.js:59 XHR finished loading: “http://overpass.osm.rambler.ru/cgi/interpreter?data=[out:json];(way(-35.010…86,139.06356811523435)[%27amenity%27=%27cafe%27];);out%2040;(._;%3E;);out;;”. jquery-2.0.2.js:7858 Uncaught ReferenceError: amenity_icons is not defined

I very commonly find area + point mapping, at least in older data. I make an a fair amount of effort to fix this with KeepRight’s redundant tags feature.

It would be interesting to know if the placement of a school icon in the middle of the area has cut down on this kind of mapping for iD users.

facepalm That’ll learn me not to use markdown

I agree with you. The pathway should be: New person? - Hey, this is OSM - Want to edit? – Want to tell your friends? – iD — Potlatch/JOSM - Want to edit, from your mobile? –> Foursquare to use some of the map data in a fun way, then move onto admin / updates –> Vespucchi/GoMap!! for data collection –> Keypad mapper 3 - Want to edit with your friends? -> mapcraft - Want to fix errors? -> keepright - Oh, here’s the wiki and huge list of tools

https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/issues/331 is a similar conversation I tried to start re left nav - Would you consider doing a PR of you changes / something similar to #331?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1E_CPxR3LA is probably quite interesting for you

I would love to see a number of these on the primary ui - the comments about ‘map’ vs editing portal seem t o be a red herring. I would more than tolerate a maps.openstreetmap.org uri which presented a ui like you describe - it would bolster the switch2osm argument a lot!

Would be interesting to add wire frames of what that layout could look like - ‘developers’ links for data tools and neat api stuff, ‘help’ pointing to a definitive tagging guide/polished tutorials ala learnosm.org, and much of the functionality of openlinkmap in the main ui. I would go further than openlinkmap and present the ‘advanced properties’ type ui, as per potlatch, in a popup should a user click on a poi - adding a name or house number should be trivial, if the object is mapped already

Here in Australia, I’ve found it more useful to rely on (commercial) data sets to provide the Cadastre - what a fence says and what a certificate of title say about a property are different beasts.

I find it useful to depict fences for large industrial areas, etc.

For the folks suggesting ‘adding a bunch of little polygons to OSM for property boundaries doesnt add much value, I’d counter that:

1) Housing values tend to be made up entirely of land value, and a little bit of improvments (physical structures)

2) Having a polygon for a property means you can calculate the sqm of a property

3) If you have information from an MLS, there’s a good chance you can work out an approximate value per square meter figure for a locality, and accordingly provide figures about How Much Is A Block Of Land Worth? These sorts of things drive automated valuation models in the finance industry.

Having a number of the components that go into such a calculation as open data implies that more people can do said calculations - you only need one or two non-free sets of data. That leads to a much lower barrier of entry, and means that if a certain model is wrong, you can sanity check that against an open equivalent.

More models, calculations and proof = more trust; more trust = less speculation, less sharp corrections of housing markets :)