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Copying from OS Locator

I would say that if done carefully then having a source:name=OS_Locator layer is no worse than having a nonames layer. Omitting such source tags would certainly be "not helpful", but if done carefully the map can be improved to a stage where the OS Locator ITO overlay shows roads where names differ between Locator/Streetview, or differ between Locator and what is already there (I wouldn't change an existing name without a survey). I have done a bit of armchair mapping, but set a few ground rules before doing so, documented on my user wiki page here:

osm.wiki/User:EdLoach#Armchair_mapping

It is a lot of effort though (and in many cases I was naming roads that were traced from NPE, as well as adding a few newer ones), and I've currently moved onto fixing the existing administrative boundary relations in the British Isles (not adding new ones, just fixing those that have already been started but not finished).

Derick's meat-up, Shop POI mapping + My meat-up this Saturday

"I'm quite happy to go with the majority on this one"

If you're using usage stats then there are about 6 million addr:postcode and only about 340,000 postal_code (source: taginfo). Whether a bot got involved at any point, or whether address tagging only took off after the Karlsruhe scheme became popular I don't know.

I do know I used to add both when there wasn't any clear reason why to use one over the other.

And your diary entry reminds me that last night I drove past what was a restaurant and is now a Health and Beauty salon with fish spa (fish=yes?) that I need to retag. Will do that now.

Bing WMS not working

I think when JOSM first starts it tries to get attribution information from Bing ("Successfully loaded Bing attribution data." appears in the console). If that fails then no Bing imagery will work for that session. Restarting JOSM usually resolves it for me.

Ye olde tale of the landuse=farmland tag

Yes, but we all get them. *Some* people are daft enough to use multipolygon relations when boundary ones (WITHOUT OUTER as a role, whatever JOSM validator tells you) was working great. (and relax....)

CT are unacceptable for PD supporters

You can do anything you like with your own contributions. The CT only say what the project can do with your contributions to the project. So no changes needed.

dependancies" and "relations

http://taginfo.openstreetmap.de/keys/?key=addr:housenumber#values

There are about 8 million house numbers on nodes and about 2 million on ways. If you are drawing a building you can put the address details directly on the way and don't need a separate node.

e.g. osm.org/go/euzPZE4wD--
or
osm.org/go/0EFrigrss--

It is possible that someone collected house numbers before sources to trace buildings were available, in which case they would likely have used nodes, but if you add buildings later than you can move the tags to the way. And I would say it is only a rare building that requires a multi-polygon relation. It is much more common that they don't.

Object-oriented mapping?

Documentation shouldn't be too hard to find as there is a big "Documentation" link on the left of this page. I'm not sure I follow the detail of the rest of your diary entry, but relations are often used when they aren't needed (why would a building need to be a multi-polygon if it doesn't have a hole in it) or completely abused (see the wiki page about relations are not categories).

But they won't map as well as me!

It is perhaps better that you help get them involved and they know who you are to listen to your experience than for them to find OSM on their own and wonder who you are to tell them that after all their hard work they should have done it better (however diplomatically it is phrased). I've just had the second situation occur locally (though I've not contacted them yet). A new mapper has scattered loads of POIs over the district which is great - detail that wasn't there before. But some of them could have been done better, such as a supermarket node originally placed in the car park (based on bing background) and later dragged to the middle of the previously traced building outline, rather than just transferring the tags to the existing object. At some point I'll have to tell them how to draw building outlines from bing to add the details to, such as takeaways and other shops, though the phone boxes they've added are pretty much as well mapped as I can imagine (does anyone try to do those as areas?).

Great Briain completely mapped in less than a year?

Interesting graph (though axis labels are swapped). I'm also assuming that the f(x) has some reference date for where x=0?

I'd also query the "correctly named" claim. With OS Streetview and OS Locator themselves sometimes differing on the name of any particular road, and sometimes both agreeing but not agreeing with what is on the ground, the best that can happen is "probably correctly named, but really could do with survey to confirm".

Getting started

There is a bit about the history here: http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/features/Union-Canal-church-history.6736486.jp - as it has also had educational use since being a church I might even just use building=yes rather than being more specific.

Getting started

If we are talking about this node: osm.org/browse/node/482446817 then as sources on the internet suggest you are correct about the name, but as the church closed in 1941 it probably shouldn't really be tagged as a place of worship any more (even with access=private). I'd probably draw the outline from Bing imagery and tag it building=ex-church old_name=St Kentigern's (or something along those lines). Oh, and once the building was added, remove the node (or move the node to the starting point to draw the building, to sort of keep some connection between the node and the way that replaces it).

US power lines are still incomplete

Thanks for answering my question. There is a chance I didn't add the pylons as I was using Potlatch at the time to cover the large areas involved; with JOSM I'd have traced the lines and then used a search for "child selected" to add the pylons. Perhaps I should revisit the areas, if I can remember where I was mapping exactly...

US power lines are still incomplete

What does the image show? I have vague recollections of doing quite a bit of powerline/imagery stuff in GA, but the map there looks a bit sparse.

Adding my postcode

If Dhaval's location is accurate, he is a little unfortunate in some ways in that both Bing and OS Streetview are too old to show the development.

Looking at it positively though, it's a great opportunity to collect waypoints outside every house in your street along with the associated housenumbers and add that data as nodes to OSM until outlines are available, so that at least for a while where you live OSM is the best map available and you can say that you made it so...

PLEASE FIX THESE MAPNIK BUGS!!

Compdude - I'm fairly sure these issues are being worked on. Perhaps view the video of the State of the Map 2010 presentation here osm.wiki/SotM_2010_session:_What_I’d_like_to_do_with_Mapnik for more information about the complexities involved.

Comfortably select drawn buildings in JOSM

If the ways have the role "outer" then shouldn't the tag go on the relation rather than the way? And as bleakgadfly suggests, if you do use anything than building=yes (such as building=house, building=garage, building=shop or whatever) then I guess you tag these as you go along and only tag the remaining buildings with the search described above?

Query

As well as screenshots you can use the export tab to get some more customisable options.

Newbie getting started.

Try the export tab, choose the embeddable html option and convert your coordinates to decimal degrees.

Had a quick play with Bing tracing

Yes, I only had Yahoo at z13 which was too blurred to make out field boundaries. I did use OS StreetView a bit but their building outlines are only approximations (but were better than me just sticking the number on an approximate node location, as I could use buildings to distinguish between say detached houses, semi-detached houses and terraces).

Disappearing Post Box

The photos must be different dates. If Google are altering images they also replaced the English flag with the British flag on the flagpole, and I think the end (2?) properties to the left have also been repainted.