This was not a comment but a reference to scientific work. So it’s me asking you to “listen” to evidences from (OSM specific!) research.

Being reproachful like “hey men, listen…” or “let’s create an inclusive map!” is not so productive in my experience, because most do listen (asides from mapping :-), and because OSM does already have quite an inclusive community and map according to the many mapping parties I organized and meetings I attended.

I’m supporting any initiative to welcome more women in OSM since 20 years, like Django Girls, PostgresWomen. My proposal is to be specific and one of my suggestions was regarding wording. Another suggestion is to support women - like you - who are an example of a a doer and a mapper.

@wonderchook wrote “… many other studies showing that it isn’t that women don’t want to code, it is that they feel pushed out or don’t think it is for them in the first place.”

I partially agree with the second part of the statement, that women “don’t think it is for them”. And I completely agree with saying that “Just by using different language you can attract women to apply to jobs they might not have before.”

Here are specific recommended actions and a checklist for organisations about “Attractivity of ICT jobs”: https://www.fhnw.ch/de/die-fhnw/hochschulen/hsw/pmo/forschung-und-dienstleistung/attraktivitaet-von-ict-berufen (sorry Geman again, but Deepl.com will help you). Though this applies mainly to general communication and of course not for technical discussions, like e.g. on tagging, OSM software or coding.

On the other hand, I can’t confirm the claim and repeated hypothesis that women supposedly are being pushed out more than in any other STEM related activity. I’d like you really read up to what @alexkemp said above about STEM.

Pls. look also closely at this “Empirical investigation of the motivation of participants in the voluntary collection of geodata” which specically investiaged on OSM and was advised by psychologists (see osm.wiki/w/images/2/28/Motivation_VGI_Projekte_2009_vs_2011.pdf and https://www.fossgis.de/konferenz/2010/events/26.de.html ).

OK; so we agree and believe in its (OSM’s) victorious future. The english translation should’nt be a problem, since there’s DeepL as another (partial) replacement of the G* service stack - like OSM for maps. The main issue here still is another one: The weakness of OSM having almost no outreach “staff” (volunteers) - besides the word of mouth of course…

Hi Zverik

I agree that OSM can be enhanced. But I also get somehow the impression, that you are frustrated - probably because of impatience?

I’m also sometimes impatient. But I would never say “… your open map does not have any future”. Most of your arguments of having no control apply to Google Maps even more.

And your assertion, that Google e.g. has more POIs is quite debatable (do you really prefer commercially biased data?).

And of course let’s try to stick on those aspects which are comparable between Google Maps and OSM (ratings and commercial offerings are not part of the comparison, right?).

Headlines like “Not Yours, OpenStreetMap” are perhaps tought or even action provoking. But they are only constructive, if they are followed by another, positive post, and by continued engagement to make OSM even better.

So, I’m looking forward for your next diary entry :-).

Thank you very much for your engagement! I appreciate your work expecially since I know there are so many issues and so few to resolve them.

I’m nevertheless wondering why there are about 4(!) overlapping issues regarding castle/fort - and nobody is daring to consolidate them? https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+castle .

It’s perhaps only a pull away to add such an obvious icon which often has no conflict in the woods.

Is it just because there are so few maintainers on the OpenStreetMap Carto style (Daniel, Andy and…)?

Interesting web app https://ent8r.github.io/NotesReview/ I’m collecting such tools for OSM Notes management here: https://giswiki.hsr.ch/OpenStreetMap_Notes Perhaps I should move this content to the osm.wiki/Notes page?

Added this tool in the OSM Wiki page. Feel free to open an own wiki page there: osm.wiki/Quality_assurance#OSMAT

I’ve also heard from low-cost RTK GNSS which use Precise Point Positioning (PPP). Using these type of GPS mice (e.g. from u-blox) you don’t need a rover/base station and they reach sub-meter accurracy – especially when post-processed with RTKLIB: See e.g. https://www.u-blox.com/de/precise-point-positioning-ppp .

Many thanks. I see what you mean in the raster graphics and you mentioned areas (i.e. polygons with one outer ring and no inner rings) when drawing the Pies. But how forgiving is your plugin? What are the constraints of the Pie Sheet areas? What happens if a sheet polygon overlaps the Pie Overview polygon and/or another sheet polygon? What if the sheets are larger than the layout A4? Sorry for these silly questions - it’s s perhaps because of my professional deformation :-) in GIS…

@Zverik: I’m lost in your instructions when it comes to pie lines and areas… What do you all a “pie”? To me a pie is just a round thing…. What I expect here is, that a user just has to draw a perimeter (or task) as non-overlapping areas for each mapper.

You wrote:

1. Yay, we’ve got a map. Sketch the pie with lines in the “Pie Overview” layer.

Lines forming what kind of shapes?

1. Having finalized the pie, activate the “Pie Sheets” layer and draw areas around quarters that go on each of the printed sheets.

How do these areas relate to pies lines?

Perhaps two screenshots showing an example of “Pie Overview” and “Pie Sheets” layer would help?

@tyr_asd: Just FYI: There exists a georeferencing tool inside QGIS and it’s is well documented. Here it’s of course a manual task. Now what about including a marker in the print composer which helps the user to georeference? That should be rather easy to program.

Just as a side comment since you mentioned the work of Manuel Roth and Lukas Martinelli: Of course their work stands on the shoulders of open source software and spec. from others. But don’t underestimate the work they did for keeping the vector tiles updated. This was the main topic of their bachelor thesis which can be openly accessed at http://osm2vectortiles.org .

Cool visualization! You may also want to follow my Twitter bot “Trending Places” and look at it’s homepage. Som time ago I also wrote a blog post about early findings of OpenStreetMap standard map usage.

:Stefan

This software could be very helpful in many use cases. I assume Cygnus is a JOSM Plugin. Is it possible to test and possibly use it?

See also “Permanente/stabile OSM IDs!” on Talk-de https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-de/2012-July/097009.html

Ich bin daran zu überlegen, ob mit einem ReCAPTCHA die Leute, die sich bei OSM (oder so) registrieren wollen - und das CAPTCHA ausfüllen müssen - dazu zu bringen, genau solche fehlenden Verbindungen zu bestätigen - oder abzulehnen; mit “gesundem Menschenverstand”, ansonsten wenn es sein muss mit Luftbild. Wir werden aber sicher nicht vor Dezember 2013 fertig sein - von daher ist deine Wette also noch nicht in Gefahr :-).

LG, Stefan alias Geonick

Hi Harry

Nice blog. One million is a big absolute number indeed - and also in relative terms: it was you who reported almost exactly one year ago about the 500,000th signed up user of OSM in this thread: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2011-December/060829.html .

Yours, Stefan

P.S. Thanks for mentioning Kort which is a thesis work of two students of mine! There will be data for whole world soon.

Vielen Dank für die schönen Kartenbilder! Wäre ev. noch nützlich, wenn es ein diashow.html (o.ä.) dazu gäbe.

LG, Stefan

In support of Andy Allan's hint to possible confusion with osm2pgsql I've added a remark to the owner of this project, mayeul, at this "Open Discussion": https://sourceforge.net/projects/osm2postgresql/forums/forum/1683570

Is this XAPI UI really reflect the syntax of XAPI? Currently there is only one tag predicate. Isn't it possible to query more than one, like

http://openstreetmap.us/xapi/api/0.6/*[amenity=parking][capacity:disabled=*][bbox=-0.57,51.24,0.31,51.75]

Actually, even the OSM wiki leaves this question open:
osm.wiki/Xapi#Predicates

It would be nice anyhow that the wiki page get's enhanced with a real syntax definition.