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21072793 over 6 years ago

Bonjour,
osm.org/way/257087252
osm.org/way/257087251
je suis un peu surpris de ces 2 bâtiments
ils portent tous les 2 le nom Mont-Rouge 1+2 ? c'est pas l'un est le 1 et l'autre est le 2 ?
ce sont des maisons de 400 et 500m2 au sol ?
J'ai trouvé l’existence d'un hôtel qui se décrit comme étant dans l'immeuble mont-rouge. j'imagine donc que ce peut-être pas une maison.
Salutations,
Marc

63734986 over 6 years ago

bonjour Jonathan,
pq avoir fait un 2ieme nœud pour chacune de ces remontées ?
je n'ai pas compris la différence entre l'ancienne point de départ et la nouvelle ni entre l'ancien tracé et le nouveau
idem pour osm.org/changeset/63735047

64020136 over 6 years ago

Hello,

this changeset create a high number of duplicate and orphans nodes.
are you still working on this area ? maybe you forget to check josm validator before uploading. for ex :
osm.org/node/6025364283 and osm.org/node/6025404395
you may get all using "josm-zone" in the 4 popup and run josm validator to find orphan nodes
https://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/fr/map/#source=1035&item=1080&class=1&zoom=15&lat=46.72565&lon=7.53752

63060811 almost 7 years ago

Bonjour,
osm.org/node/429700570
osm.org/node/5940488044
je ne comprend pas ce que vous avez vous renseigner en créant un deuxième poteau au même endroit que le premier et en modifiant la ligne allant à la centrale pour utiliser ce 2ieme poteau.
il sait difficilement y avoir 2 poteaux superposé au même endroit

63844654 almost 7 years ago

Bonjour,

Quand on déplace de nombreux noeuds, il est indispensable de charger la zone au complet dans josm sinon le déplacement de ces noeuds peux provoquer en cascade des problèmes sur d'autres objets.
Par ex le déplacement de osm.org/node/2636902301 provoque un problème de polygone invalide avec osm.org/way/330012741
au total il y avait 5 polygones invalide, telement invalide que j'ai à peu près retiré tous les noeuds déplacé récement de ceux-ci pour réussir à retrouver quelque chose d'utilisable.
et encore il reste de nombreux problème tel que les forets qui traversent des immeubles.

Salutations,
Marc

62960987 almost 7 years ago

Bonjour,
osm.org/way/628430642
est-ce volontaire que ce rond-point tourne dans le sens anti-horloger ?
Salutations,
Marc

63276497 almost 7 years ago

Clermont-Ferrand is a CITY (it doesn't care if it's a new or old one), you see "welcome to Clermont-Ferrand city" traffic sign when you go there, you see it on traffic sign destination it's why a place=city exist for Clermont-Ferrand.
it's also a municipality and it's why osm also have a 2nd objet for the municipality.
For Belmont-Broye, the traffic sign said : "Domdidier/Dompierre/Léchelles/Russy village (a part of Belmont-Broye municipality)". it's why osm have one place=village for each of the 4 villages but no place=village for Belmont-Broye.

that's not a special rule for Swiss, that a commun rule for osm : add objects for what they ARE and not for what YOU want to SEE rendered on the map. don't tag for the render, don't tag "to make a clone of Bing/Google/another map" !

Wikipedia : did you clic and read my previous link ?
osm.wiki/Wikidata#Importing_data_from_Wikidata_into_OSM
Wikipedia and osm rules are NOT the same.
I never said that wikipedia is wrong nor illegal, i said wikipedia/wikidata/osm rules for source are not the same.

Licence for SwissTopo : I would be very happy to see a court decision or a political decision to switch all Swisstopo datas to an open licence but today this is not true. you are free to sue Swisstopo if you want, you don't need anyone's agreement. but osm is not the right place to experiment with data import when the (c) does not allow it.
I didn't participate in the discussion about street names, but by reading your 11 comments on the changeset found in the block message, I think everyone have talked, the problem is that you don't seem to accept the osm rule about the valid source. What is certain is that even if you don't agree, you can't ignore that copying Swisstopo data is a PROBLEM. you can't say it's not written or that you don't know ! I very unhappy that we can NOT copy data from Bing/Google/SwissTopo but deliberately breaking the rules is a waste of time for everyone since it will end up in a revert. there's a lot of useful things to do.

So please don't use Bing/Google/SwissTopo to create osm data and don't create place=village with the municipality when no village exist with this name.
Also don't import wikidata without looking at the source. wikidata is not a bypass to import not-allowed source for osm.
osm is not wikipedia. a source maybe be valid for widipedia/wikidata but not for osm. every survey I made is valid for osm but doesn't allow me to create a wikipedia for every objet I add in osm.

I hope you understand what I mean.

PS: for the population value, I've posted to talk-ch to check what is possible/allowed.

Regards,
Marc

63276497 almost 7 years ago

Creating fake villages to see the name displayed on the map is NOT a good argument. Murten is listed as a city and as a municipality because the city and the municipality have the same name, it has nothing to do with the date of creation or merge.
Avenches for example is a merged municipality. The main village is also called Avenches, which is why Avenche is in osm as a city + municipality.
osm.org/node/1425180889
osm.org/relation/1868682
but each of the 2 objects describes something different, a village is not the same as a municipality.
As there is NO village called Belmont-Broye, there is no place=village in osm with the name Belmont-Broye.

for admin.ch/swisstopo invalid licence
osm.wiki/Switzerland/Datasources#Not-compatible_data_sources
I think you're perfectly aware of that, given the massive problem with street names before that, isn't it ?

Regards,
Marc

63276497 almost 7 years ago

Hello,

yes feel free to reply in English if you prefer.

adding missing village is fine but Belmont-Broye is not a village, it's a municipality.

every map style decide if it want to render village or municipality, we don't tag for the render, we don't create fake village only to force a "village-name-map" to show municipality name like a village.

the search work fine for a municipality osm.org/search?query=Belmont-Broye

for population tag, the main issue is the licence of the source. wikipedia, because it allow to copy not-open data, is not a allowed source for an import into osm.
see no 2 in osm.wiki/Welcome_to_Wikipedia_users
and also osm.wiki/Wikidata#Importing_data_from_Wikidata_into_OSM
I 'll ask talk-ch for a valid source to update population tag with an allowed source.
it's why the source tag before uploading your changeset is so usefull, despite iD doesn't make its input intuitive.

Regards,
Marc

63276497 almost 7 years ago

Bonjour,
je ne saisis pas pourquoi vous avez créer un village pour Belmont-Broye alors que c'est une commune et qu'elle est déjà renseignée.
Par ailleurs quel est la source/date pour les maj des populations ?
je pensais que l'information par village n'était plus disponible depuis la fusion.
Salutations,
Marc

45625270 almost 7 years ago

même problème avec une autre route ici osm.org/#map=19/46.90055/6.92848

45625270 almost 7 years ago

bonjour,
ce chemin croise ce ruiseau
osm.org/way/424811968
osm.org/way/474235589
savez-vous si c'est le chemin passe sur un pont ou si le ruisseau passe dans une buse ?
salutations,
Marc

62878853 almost 7 years ago

doublon osm.org/changeset/61428363

62694643 almost 7 years ago

vous l'aviez déjà renseignée osm.org/changeset/61046798

62878291 almost 7 years ago

déjà renseignée osm.org/way/35541172

62878766 almost 7 years ago

doublon osm.org/way/288362856

62695072 almost 7 years ago

vous l'aviez déjà mappé en double
osm.org/changeset/61109892
osm.org/node/5913647417

61109892 almost 7 years ago

doublon osm.org/way/98201751

62878217 almost 7 years ago

vous l'aviez déjà mappé osm.org/changeset/61541757

62991464 almost 7 years ago

bonjour et bienvenu sur openstreetmap
je réagis à votre demande d'avis sur votre modif
si des panneaux restreignent le chemin comme vous l'avez indiquez, votre contribution est correcte.
je n'ai cependant jamais vu de panneau "interdit sauf piéton vélo et chevaux"
c'est vraiment ce qui est présent ?
bonne continuation