Congratulations! How long did that take you?

Wow! Grand!

Different people care about different details. Lane attributes? Destination signs? Maxspeed? Lit? Wheelchair access? Stairs with stroller ramps?

“I don’t need this” != “this is useless”.

Whoa, cool! How long did that take you, from start to finish?

Well, Level0 is a powertool in the extreme: No safety checks, no abstraction beyond the OSM API, anything goes. It does not encourage destructive or misleading edits, unlike the-app-that-shall-not-be-named.

@pnorman: Since the editor in maps.me launched, I still have to receive the first response from any maps.me user. Nothing, zero, nada.

IMNSHO the app encourages personal notetaking into public data; for the record, that is not good.

Beware raw eggs and raw data. If you ingest the former, you’ll get sick. If you ingest the latter…well, just ask Maps.me developers how many people are getting upset at the strange edits their users contribute.

In other words, verification is - surprisingly - the hardest part.

Well, the question is - what to do? CAPTCHAs? I fear that the spam is made by mechanized humans, so traditional methods wouldn’t be effective.

If lost, specifically hunting for BTS (and thus cellphone signal) can actually kill you. Case in point: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36389383 - hiker went up, up, up, figuring there must be cellphone signal somewhere.

Hello and welcome!

The edits look nice; may I have some suggestions on extra tags? The streets could use a surface=* tag (asphalt?), and perhaps lanes=* (2 is the usual count - one for each direction).

osm.wiki/Key:surface

osm.wiki/Key:lanes

As for buildings, could you add building:levels=* ? It’s a very useful hint e.g. for OsmBuildings.

osm.wiki/Key:building:levels

I’d also recommend wrapping the area in landuse=residential - see this one “next door”: osm.org/way/316156882

Cheers, Piskvor

Wow! That is sure an ambitious project - but doable, definitely. I wish you best of luck :) Is this the city? osm.org/node/290485693#map=12/45.7886/24.1668

Thanks a lot - the situation is apparently much better than it appeared. Great work!

WeeklyOSM ignores you? What a pity, Vespucci is the only editor I’m using on Android…

You could also use the Reverter plugin in JOSM to undo the second changeset.

Single point of failure? More like a cluster of SPOFs. Let’s see what you need for converting “vendor.lock.in” into a location:

• some computing device
• implies functional and charged device
• that can and may connect to the Internet
• implies data coverage and access (data roaming, anyone)
• the w3w servers to be up and operational
• the w3w company to be up and operational (and willing to respond (for free?))

The last point is especially relevant on a longer timescale than startups usually even imagine:

I came over at once to London, called in my own person at `teach.charm.table`,
threw Mrs Hudson into violent hysterics, and found that Mycroft
had preserved my rooms and my papers exactly as they had always been.

How is that readable, twenty years from now? The same issue goes for all other encoding systems: okay for automated processing, worse for humans; but for proprietary algorithms, it’s especially problematic. We’ve had enough black-box formats so far - this, essentially, would make w3w the gatekeeper of all things of location; it’s unlikely they’d ever opensource (that which is probably) their main source of revenue.

Is that Settlers of Catan? ;) But what I wanted to mention is something else: since maps.me have introduced editing from inside their app (two months back?), I’ve seen - in my area of interest - multiple edits adding Chinese equivalents to local names, or people adding personal notes there.

I’m thinking this might be a localisation/user education problem: multiple people seem to have come to the conclusion that maps.me (and by extension, OSM) is the correct place to put their subjective notes (e.g. “my house”); it’s always the “name” tag, the change text is always Chinese. and created_by is always a recent version of maps.me. I don’t have enough data yet to infer more, but it’s disconcerting that others see a similar pattern elsewhere.

Looking at http://map.project-osrm.org/debug/#15.08/14.3805/121.0447 and http://map.project-osrm.org/debug/#15.08/14.3283/121.0669 , the router seems to be very optimistic about General Malvar Street and the National Highway , but not entirely happy about Susana Heights Rd. Perhaps lane+maxspeed tagging?

Well, congratulations!

Now that is a lot of effort, with an impressive result. Great work!

Reality map: osm.org/ Fantasy map: http://opengeofiction.net/