@ConsEbt “users” don’t really factor in here, there is some unrest among developers (because these are the people that will be blamed when they have to remove functionality), but those that don’t create the umpteenth rehash of media player/gallery/etc.are a minority to start with. For google to pay attention it would need to have a substantial impact on their revenue stream from paid apps and that is unlikely to happen.

@alexkemp & @Rovastar just to reinforce the statements by woodpeck and SomeoneElse: it is well established (since end of 2017) who’s behind these edits, they are clearly in violation of our ToU by creating fake user accounts, and on top it their edits are rubbish (that they haven’t even bothered to take note that they might need to add an actual object tag says all). So that you can put it in to relation: they create the majority of new accounts in the US.

@alexkemp btw, you are required to provide a valid working e-mail address as part of the sign up process and need to keep it current, we do not allow anonymous editing (since over a decade now).

IMHO given that they have a longish history of vandalism in the mean time, I don’t quite see why we (as in the OSMF) don’t send them a cease and desist and if they don’t stop, drive them out of business (they are at least pro-forma incorporated in the US).

Um ganz sicher zu sein, hab ich für ein history dump von gestern einen entsprechenden Ausschnitt angeschaut … keine Häuser.

Ich hab die Gebäude kurz nachgetragen, inklusive der Kirche eine vernünftige Geometrie geben, Aufwand 5 Minuten. Deutlich weniger als die Nachforschung bis jetzt gekostet hat.

Generell ist es gescheiter so was auf talk-ch anzusprechen. Wie die Vorredner bereits gesagt haben, scheint es zu mindestens in letzter Zeit sich da nichts getan zu haben (ich hab auch noch mit OSMCha geprüft).

transifex has always been free for OSS projects, and interesting enough the original transifex code was OSS (but is now afaik abandonware).

Most larger and popular OSM projects (for example iD) host their translations on transifex, using a different platform massively wastes translator time and leads to diverging translations for the same terms.

I’m not saying that weblate is bad, simply that there is little value in not using transifex but lots of advantages if your project is part of the OpenStreetMap organisation, including to be able to use the 1000s of already existing translations.

Seuffzz da du es genau wissen wolltest, dass du daneben liegst:

https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/commit/9c2de4039c3053c35e76f596faa95557dc237c74

November 2010.

a) die Option gibt’s mindestens seit ich mappe (2010) b) früher war potlatch, dann potlatch2 als Default eingetragen, seit 2013 iD

Das ist auch so oder so vernünftig, da man schon lange nicht mehr davon ausgehen kann, dass Flash im Browser unterstützt und vorhanden ist (JOSM ist aus naheliegenden praktischen Gründen dafür auch völlig ungeeignet)..

Die “aktive Mapper” Definition soll einfach ein gewisses minimales aktuelles Interesse an OSM nachweisen, naturgemäss bevorzugt es ein bisschen Leute die “neu” sind, aber dafür fallen Leute auch relativ schnell heraus. Wenn man den Passus genau liest, sieht man aber auch, dass man zusätzlich zu den “Mapping” Kriterien auch noch:

• eine funktionierende e-mail Adresse haben
• und innerhalb von 3 Wochen auf eine e-mail reagieren muss

in der Praxis dürfte dies mindestens eine gleich grosse Hürde sein.

@DannyMcD place mapping is an issue worldwide and the situation that settlements do not match up with administrative entities is fairly common. There are a number discussion on the subject, some current, in the openstreetmap-carto repository.

@farhadGuli what do you mean with “map loading”?

Except that there was and is already the widely used builiding:levels tag meaning something completely different.

The discussion is getting slightly silly now. We had to choose a default numbering and regardless of which one we would have chosen somebody would have been unhappy.

That said the schema with the ground floor/parterre being numbered as 0 or not at all, and the 1st floor up being number 1 is really very common with literally millions of building being numbered that way.

If regionally your level numbering skips 0 for the ground floor, aka goes directly from -1 to 1, you can simply add non_existent_levels=0 to the building outline and apps that are aware of this will not display 0 as a choice.

@Stalfur I think you will find major parts of Europe disagree with you.

In any case as I’ve pointed out differing numbering schemes etc, can be recorded in level:ref

@joost note that my statement that a large number of the new mappers in the US are SEO spammers is -not- based on the different workday - weekend patterns. It is based simply on the findings of investigating the large increase in incoming new mappers in the states starting end of 2016, which are in the 1000s of SEO spam accounts. If these were filtered out (many different ways possible) you would find the US even more overrepresented as it is.

I’m sure the numbers are accurate for what they are actually measuring (the OS versions of the devices installing via/accessing the play store). That does not mean that they are an accurate measure or proxy for the OS versions of the devices actually in use in one form or the other, which tends to be implied.

The sub 4.4 (non inclusive of 4.4 and mid 2018) portion of installs via the play store is 3% for Vespucci. But I wouldn’t expect most such device owners to install via the play store in the first place (more likely from F-Droid, from our repo, own builds etc).

We don’t have any numbers from any of the other ways of installing and except if we would start to record OS version in changeset tags, which I wouldn’t consider a good idea, we are simply never going to know the details (outside of OS version specific regressions, which has happened now and then :-/).

You are falling for Google marketing.

There is already a level:ref tag defined in SIT that can be added to the level outline for level names or very different numbering.

PS S3DB doesn’t have a level tag and when the concept of levels is used it is as a proxy for the height of the element.