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103787775 over 4 years ago

Hi,
Thanks for keeping track of the boundaries, and adding most of them as far as I can see.

I've lived in Swanley for over 30 years, but have had connections here for much longer. The names I've used are the names that friends who live in Swanley would use for the area that they live.

The 'White Oak' node was actually added by someone else a couple of years ago - it's correct for the area as far as I know. The local sports centre is White Oak leisure centre, and the Bowls centre is also white oak. Until it was renamed Horizon Primary, the school was White Oak Junior. The dentists are White Oak Dental practice. This also coincides with the local voting area. I know there is, or was, a local community group also with White Oak in their name.

St Mary's has a church, and school remaining with the name in them, both on St Marys Road, but the secondary school had St Mary's in its name at one point in the distant past. St Mary's is on our voting papers, and the leaflets currently being posted through our doors.

Christchurch has a church and community centre, and in the past the schools name included Christchurch. Its also on the voting papers for the residents.

High Firs is the name I've always known that estate as, and it has the High Firs County Primary School there.

The OS data shows another area, between White Oak and Christchurch, but I'm not aware of local people using a name for that, so I've not added it. It's probably St Bartholomews from the church and school, but the people I've known living there have always referred to places like 'off of Northview', or 'near Swanley Lane'. It could also have been 'New Barn' as Swanley Park was previously called 'New Barn Park' - really confusing as there is another area called New Barn Park, which is a couple of miles away near Longfield. Altogether too vague for me, so not added.

The data set was downloaded from the Ordnance Survey opendata site - I think the link is https://osdatahub.os.uk/downloads/open/BoundaryLine?_ga=2.160548157.1865002306.1619649726-1447813470.1619303355, and the filename I have is bdline_essh_gb.zip

The particular boundaries are from The Polling Districts England Region, and the shapefiles were (I think from my notes) 16311 to 16316

My interest in these areas was sparked by the strange results for searches that Nominatim, and other apps, produce. At some point in the past a node was added just off of Hockenden Lane for 'Upper Hockenden'. This resulted in searches for, for instance, Crescent Gardens, producing a result with Hockenden in the name - really confusing because we have the border with London Boroughs nearby, and Hockenden itself is actually classed as part of London.

The neighbourhood nodes and borders that I've added should (maybe!) result in more sensible search results, and will fit in with the names that we all use locally.

Regards
Nick (Tallguy)

103145885 over 4 years ago

Hi,
It's definitely not "access=no", but I need to re-visit it to see what the signs (if any) say it is.

Mapillary has my photo's of it at https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=51.39035979277778&lng=0.16605606277777776&z=17&pKey=GekD28Phkx3wpU3svhMBUC&focus=photo - it is brand new, and looks like a cycle path, and is being used by local cyclists as a cycle path, but there were no signs when I cycled along twice in October.

Thanks for picking up on this @rskedgell

Regards

Nick
Nick

101519435 over 4 years ago

Thank you

101520276 over 4 years ago

Thank you - sorry I hadn't realised it was still there, I just saw the 'deleted' bit in the changeset.

101520276 over 4 years ago

osm.org/node/7359917960/history

101519435 over 4 years ago

Hi, in addition to the earlier discussion, it's 'separate' not 'seperate' in the tag - if you've used it elsewhere you'll have the same problem of it not being recognised.

101520276 over 4 years ago

Hi JayTurnr - I'm not sure if there are any others, but you've accidentally deleted a gate in this changeset - grateful if you could put it back please.

Regards

Tallguy

101519435 over 4 years ago

Please see discussion on osm.org/changeset/96021663#map=16/51.4130/0.1845

96021663 over 4 years ago

Hi @JayTurnr

In your first comment you have linked to an old 'help' entry last updated in 2013, but have failed to mention either;
osm.wiki/Land_use_and_areas_of_natural_land
or,
osm.wiki/Land_use
or
osm.wiki/How_to_map_landuse
all of which are considerably more recent, and indicate that there are several different ways of mapping land use - there is not one correct way.

I fail to see how I can survey an area over numerous visits, then accurately map it, and yet have my contribution labelled by you as 'I can see you've gone to a great extent to add many details, however, some of the features you added are in fact more harmful than useful.'

osm.org/way/136164600/history , until you deleted it and many surrounding features, mapped a traffic island and the turn lane accessing it. The before (mapped by me 9 years ago) & the 'after' recently mapped by you may be seen at https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-change-viz?c=101519435#19/51.41313/0.16549. Please see osm.wiki/Tagging_for_the_renderer, which also covers tagging for the router. **traffic_calming=island** has over 27,000 instances mapped as a node, over 37,000 mapped as a 'way' (drawn as an island), and a further 418 as a relation. I suggest that you have your changeset reverted - you can find out how to do this on the wiki, or ask on the Talk-GB mailing list https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb. If you need any further help in having your changeset reverted, please get back in touch with me.

I notice that you have also been deleting sections of pathways with the adjacent golf course, and then retracing them - the approved method of making improvements is to adapt the original, not delete other peoples work.

Regards

Tallguy

85809471 about 5 years ago

Thank you

85809471 about 5 years ago

Hi, I'm not sure if you have any new information, but I think you will find this is actually a footpath with no vehicle access. I don't visit that area very often, but unless you have strong evidence I would not tag it with something that would allow a motor vehicle to drive there.

Regards

Nick

85658696 about 5 years ago

Hi & welcome. I've had a quick look and this looks good to me - I'm not familiar with that particular path or connecting roads, but it looks likely on the imagery.
Just something you may consider (you don't have to) is uploading a gps trace - easy if you have a smartphone - search on 'openstreetmap' and several will probably be listed, and you can upload the trace straight from the app.
Keep up the good work

Nick (Tallguy)

85678999 about 5 years ago

Yes, I was called away before I had the chance to change my 'note' to the necessary change - done now.

83499564 over 5 years ago

Hi & welcome to OpenStreetMap. If I can offer a little friendly guidance from one mapper to another;
Try to save more often, and before changing the location you are working on - it looks a little suspicious to change things in St Pauls Cray, and Medway & there are some new people who do not come to help - all your edits, as far as I can see, are good, but it makes it difficult for mappers to make sure you have good intent. Also, if/when you make a mistake (we all do at some point), it may be that your changeset will need reverting and it's better for you if it's not too big.

Regards & keep up the good work

Nick (Tallguy)
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83099290 over 5 years ago

Hi & Welcome to OpenStreetMap. I hope you continue to map & learn - it can really give a great sense of satisfaction.
If I can offer a little advice;
1. Do your uploads (Save in iD) for each area - I'm not sure what you've mapped in the US & Canada, but it seems strange/suspicious to mix it with edits in England.
2. Try to match the outlines of the buildings a little closer - you may need to zoom in a little closer (scale showing about 20 metres seems to work well). This guide may help you https://learnosm.org/en/hot-tips/tracing-rectangular-buildings/
Regards & keep up the good work.

Tallguy

68082424 over 6 years ago

Hi gla-gis. Glad to see you've made a start, but I think you need to have a read of this page osm.wiki/Tag:amenity%3Ddrinking_water which should help you with the tags you will need. Hashtags doesn't actually exist as a 'tag' in OSM.

61343427 almost 7 years ago

I think you're right! Not sure how I managed that one. I've corrected it, and another duplicate in osm.org/changeset/61407247#map=18/51.39683/0.17257

Thanks for the heads-up.

Nick

61208554 almost 7 years ago

should all be fixed now in changeset osm.org/changeset/61235745

61208554 almost 7 years ago

Hi @user_5359 - thanks for that, you're right - I'll sort them out later today! Regards
Nick

19600796 almost 10 years ago

Hi, this relates to http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/352 where are edits are from December 2013. The only way I could get the imagery to load was through the Tasking manager for that task - it identifies as Tasking Manager -#352. The imagery is pretty poor.
I've deleted the duplicates from square
http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/352#task/656
which was the one I had completed.

If you are going to send messages concerning the edits from that period it would be helpful if you included that information.

Regards