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OSM Relatify: OpenStreetMap public transport made easy

Holger from OpenTransportMeetup just pointed me to that

https://relatify.monicz.dev/?relation=2634688&load=1

and that you’re going to add code for the load=1 …

and that you’re going to present this there on 2023-07-26 (don’t know yet whether I can make it on that day).

OSM Relatify: OpenStreetMap public transport made easy

Hey, that’s great.

How can I directly link to a relation?

I consider adding a link per relation in PTNA

https://ptna.openstreetmap.de/results/PL/14/PL-14-ZTM-Warszawa-Analysis.html#bus_141

Like the links to iD, JOSM and PTNA in the 3rd column

Recursos para la creación de líneas de bus en la CAM

Do you know PTNA which does QA, in Spain currently “only” for Zaragoza?

It can easily be extended for other areas/cities as well.

Fahrradstraßen

Es empfiehlt sich daher, auch auf die Access-Tags zurückzugreifen.

Die access-tags von OSM sind generisch und weltweit sowie langfristig gültig.

Welche Anwendung mag sich schon mit traffic_sign=DE:xyz, identisch zu traffic_sign=FR:asd identisch zu traffic_sign=US:ghj rumschlagen.

Adding Shapefile of National Cycling Routes in Germany

Ähm, sorry I forgot the say: “Thanks for the offer!” I think we will find a way to make use of it.

Adding Shapefile of National Cycling Routes in Germany

Unfortunately, “Data license Germany – attribution – version 2.0” seems to me not being compatible with OSM.

We cannot place the source of every contribution/data on every derived OSM map. OSM is primarily a Data Base. Rendering maps using the data is a second, independent step which can be performed by anyone (also outside the OSM ecosystem, commercial purpose).

What we can do is, putting a note on our “Contributors page”.

I would like to ask you:

  1. for a “go”, i.e. it is OK to put the “attribution” only on the “Contributors page” - if possible

  2. to discuss this in a wider audience, the German forum

Transport

If you’d like to add more public transport route, kindly have a look at the (currently valid and approved) Public Transport schema (so called: version 2 = “PTv2”)

There are some PT QA tools out there

Information about network:route:bus:type custom tag. (deprecated)

What about using route:category with values normal, intercity, metro, express, suburban, …

OverpassQL for downloading bus roads and bus stops data into JOSM

Sorry, wrong URL, typo

https://ptna.openstreetmap.de/

OverpassQL for downloading bus roads and bus stops data into JOSM

Maybe you want to check the bus route relations using PTNA - Public Transport Network Analysis?

Check it out: https://ptna.opensteetmap.de

I can add support for your area within few minutes.

Wanderung mit Ziegen

Ansonsten: heute Abend 20:00 ist OSM-Stammtisch Stuttgart - online

osm.wiki/Stuttgart/Stammtisch

Jede(r) ist willkommen, Themen nicht vorgegeben, …

Wanderung mit Ziegen

Versuche es mal mit Brouter

http://brouter.de/brouter-web/#map=7/49.214/12.030/osm-mapnik-german_style

Der ist am flexibelsten, man kann

  • no-go-Areas einzeichnen
  • selber via’-Punkte definieren
  • selber das Profil (meide Straße, vom Typ x, bevorzuge Feldwege, …) anpassen
Removing private trail from map

My hope is that no one will use that non-trail.

Fire Fighters, Police, Rescue, Amazon Logistics, UPS, Post, … may want to use this trail if it leads to a house, …

Adding access=private is the right way

Mapping out bus routes in Anchorage

Public Transport in OSM is in fact not easy to map.

The older (legacy) version, also called PTv1 (public_transport:version=1), allows mapping a bus route with a single relation - same technique as with hiking, cycling, skiing, mtb, … routes - but adding bus stops/platforms. As such, PTv1 routes are OK for “painting a red line on a map”, but not really more than that.

The newer one, called PTv2, is more complex and complicated - yes. But it allows data consumers other than map-painters making use of structured data. PTNA focuses on PTv2 relations. PTv2 has a lot of ‘optional’ and ‘recommended’ but only few ‘madatory’ features/tags. To be honest: map as many optional/recommended features/tags as possible.

Regarding PTNA and adding a new ‘network’ or other areas: the easiest way for you is to “give me ring” via mail with some details. It’s then more or less a matter of copy&paste (for me).

The alternative is to do it on your own in GitHub:

1.) for the new ‘network’ to be analyzed: https://github.com/osm-ToniE/ptna-networks

2.) for the web page: https://github.com/osm-ToniE/ptna-www

But there are only 1 or 2 mappers (< 10 ‘network’) doing it this way.

Mapping out bus routes in Anchorage

Just added the City of Anchorage, Alaska to PTNA (Public Transport Network Analysis).

https://ptna.openstreetmap.de/results/US/index.php

At the moment, this is only a list of what can be found in OSM.

This can be improved later on to specify what is expected in OSM, what exists on the ground. As an example see the template:

osm.wiki/Public_transport_in_Adelaide/Analysis/Adelaide_Metro_Routes

Orientierungshilfe beim Mappen im Ahrtal

… wenn der Link denn funktionieren würde.

Route nach Bauhaus Langenzersdorf

Das scheint ein Fehler (doer veraltete Daten) von MagicEarth zu sein. Warum routet der in eine Sackgasse (Profile: Auto oder Radl?).

osm.org/directions?engine=graphhopper_car&route=48.29336%2C16.37910%3B48.30129%2C16.37182#map=16/48.2974/16.3754

osm.org/directions?engine=fossgis_osrm_car&route=48.2934%2C16.3791%3B48.3013%2C16.3718

Viel hat sich getan!

Hey,

du hast es in die Weekly-OSM-News geschafft!

https://weeklyosm.eu/de/archives/14561

LG Toni

Mappen von Bürgerentscheiden

Servus Strubbl,

der andere User war ich.

Gruß, Toni

Bis nächste Woche beim Stammtisch

Auftakt für die Bürgerentscheidskarte!

Servus,

alles was OSM AFAIK an Lizenzangaben hier benötigt steht unten rechts auf der Karte “© OpenStreetMap Mitwirkende”.

Von OSM-Seite aus also OK.