2008 tile server is on a different machine and sometimes it crashes for no reason. I’m restarted it, but who know how long it’ll work.

I thought, why do we fixate on 2008? 2009 would make more sense because it’s an API 0.6 changeover year.

So… https://2012.osmz.ru/4.html

Martijn, making connections is a great idea. Like a line of indirect positive communication: “hey your data has been mapped by X, do thank them” → “Y has seen you mapping and is very grateful”. Also, archievements! And tutorials for collecting data better, like what exactly to photo, how to convey context, how to submit walking papers. Maybe also package all of that for each surveying session, so that one can submit some photos and a hand-drawn map of where they are.

Hey Grant, it’s still in review :( Google is notoriously slow with reviewing app updates. AppStore version was up the next day after I submitted it, on Sunday.

Gah, we should have met at SotM to talk this “now”-“later” thing in MapRoulette over! This is like a thing that calls for a brainstorming. I have tons of experience with making photos and scribbles for the map and never coming back to them. But I’m not sure if MapRoulette’s model fits. And that we would get many people processing the collected data: walking and making photos is miles more fun that sitting in a room and adding the data.

Hey Martijn, you’ve made a great tool, but I did it the old way, by downloading an old planet extract and setting up a tile server :) I’m pretty sure your scripts would be useful to people who are not used to setting up tile servers.

I did the same some years ago for 2008 here, btw. Except that for 2008 I removed the US to minimize the extract, because of the TIGER import.

Согласен с основным посылом — поэтому и сделал редактор Every Door. Чтобы не только создавать, но и обновлять магазины было очень просто и быстро.

Hey, osm.org is fine as it is: it’s just a showcase for a map and a medium for contacting other users, and it does its job fine. I don’t like the “changes for changes’ sake” attitude of commercial websites, so this page feels like something we can rely on.

The issue is different: we could have tons of features added every year if we had a better community relations at the github repo. Right now it’s easy to push refactorings and small changes, but virtually impossible to do anything big or outside-looking. And the way these proposals are shut down doesn’t encourage further contributions. Which is the sentiment behind the last section of the post.

So, the website is fine and good, its maintainers have been pushing the idea of “you want anything new — do it outside”, of which this editor is yet another (slightly ridiculous) example.

So I went to the list of closed pull requests and browsed all requests merged in the past two years (which is 18 pages).

The only change in the past year was indeed the users ability to delete themselves.

There were a lot of refactorings, slight API fixes and removals, refactoring UI elements to use Bootstrap, and function of limited visibility (e.g. for admins).

I saw some discarded pull request like dark mode for the website, and an option to see notes that are created by yourself.

So in the past two years we’ve got:

• Self-deletion feature.
• Removal of Potlatch 1 & 2.
• Last updated date for diary entries (seen here, for I updated the Chrome link as suggested by Mateusz).
• Collapsible list of members and parents for an object (e.g. seen here).
• Separate preferences and profile forms (seen under your account icon at the top right; made things more confusing imo).
• OAuth2 support.

I’d say the latter two are the most visible, and the OAuth2 improves things for users. But still, that’s two changes in the past two years, and not the changes that change anything in the way we interact with the website.

The fort looks much cleaner now, and it’s immediately obvious where to go. Great work, thanks!

Can’t say that’s unpredicted. Unless the URL and its usage terms are documented, you’re not promised anything.

When you’re out and mapping, you’re not just collecting data — you’re improving the map. And that includes telling people about OpenStreetMap, luring them in. That’s why for my mapping parties I printed and distributed business cards: they make you look more official, and promoted the map.

Предлагаю не спешить с мышью, а взять телефон, поставить Every Door и пойти картографировать на улицу :)

The OSMF policy of “do anything but in your own sandbox” along with repos’ maintainers behaviour has pushed the community into a state of learned helpnessness. It’s easier to do GDPR changes at Geofabrik or for private projects than to even start thinking of changing the OSM infra. We have been told for many years that any change to OSM requires a committee, and also pushing pull requests through the hoops. And committes do not appear from the thin air, they need either to be created (by the OSMF Board, since there’s nobody else), or grow organically (which we have successfully prevented).

So yeah, unless the OSMF Board makes it their #1 priority, there will be no GDPR compliance in OSM.

There are two Amandas, they take turns.

Thanks for writing this up, Cristoffs. I’m pretty sure this will remain another in a long list of diary posts pointing out tribalism and “meritocracy” in the OSM leadership. And as with previous posts, it would lead nowhere, gaining just a few mocking comments here and supporting comments on local channels, where people learnt to not rely on the “core OSM people” from UK and Germany. The latter keep supporting and funding each other, while outsiders have to push every little change through 100-comment threads and dream of forking decade-old projects.

(Yes, I myself was on the OSMF Board once and failed to do anything with this. This is a very complex issue requiring a collaboration effort that does not exists between people not gathering regularly in pubs.)

Mannivu, thanks for the offer! Italian is already there, just wait for the 0.4 version which will be out in a couple days. I plan to use Weblate for translations, currently waiting for their approval.

razor74, please check the FAQ.

Why is the default language German and not English?

I’ve no idea. I guess because alphabetically “de” < “en”. Will try to fix that in the next version.

Okay, done.