The tags “heritage:website” and “image” can also contain URLs. Might be worth looking at them too in a future version of your script.

see osm.wiki/Wikimapia, so permission to use data from one project into the other is not possible, current licenses are not compatible.

I doubt OSM will change its license anytime soon.

So with “merge” you probably mean that you replaced e.g. the “twin” road way “Hibiscus Coast Highway” with 1 OSM way ? Which was then mapped again as twin road in osm.org/changeset/60446050 (Twin ways, added slip roads primary links and added directionality one way.) ?

On aerial imagery I see that at least part of that road is separated by a physical obstacle (grass, ..). I’m not familiar with the location, so it’s hard to tell whether the intermediate sections with just white markings should be mapped as 1 OSM or not. What’s the ratio of the length with a physical separation vs. lane markings ?

That’s why I have Magic Earth and OsmAnd on my phone. No need to go on-line.

If you would follow the tagging mailing list, you would see that there are currently 2 proposals. BTW, one of them started from an earlier proposal that was not “finished”. This means that the community is aware of the problem for some longer period, but it is difficult to define a solution that covers all kind of claims.

Your tagging proposals have influenced my mapping work. I try to map minor power lines and street cabinets now. A few weeks someone wrote the following remark “I’m editing the street cabinet (telecom ones) in Belgium and that’s funny how I can detect the places where escada went for survey ahah”

This can only mean that my changes do not blend in with the rest of the map and that “PR”-articles like this one are needed, so more people start mapping infrastructure.

@Kilkenni, I had seen/heard the explaination of “recognized physical control” being used “long” before this case. Not only by Andy, but by other members of the DWG (and perhaps of the community at large) as well. (see e.g. https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=660709#p660709 from August 24, 2017). My comment above that was based on something that I read/heard before that.

It might not have been part of the disputed territory document, but the concept circulated before it was added (last week ?) to it.

@Tomas Straupis, @Poliakoff Mykhailo

Do I understand it correctly that the “previous” situation had overlapping admin-level=2 borders ? Well then I do not understand how this data can help a geocoder decide in which country a city is located. It will always have to return 2 replies. The geocoder would need dedicated code to return the political correct answer for the request (depending on the IP-address, as Google does) if the request come from one of the involved countries or it’s allies.

If Nominatim returned 2 replies, that would be a feature I’ve never heard of. Try to get a response that return all segments of a street, when the street is split. That is (or was) not possible. I have read that Nominatim only returns 1 answer if there are 2 entities at the same level.

@Tomas Straupis, I wonder what Nominatim did in case a city belongs to two admin_level=2 areas. AFAIK, it randomly picks one. This would mean that when you did a search for a town in Crimea, you might either get a response that it belonged to Ukraine, or to Russia.

Did you ever tried that ?

Instead of threatening volunteers of the DWG, you should work together with the community to change the policy and work on a tagging schema for situation such as this.

I feel sorry that your country is under attack, but that is no reason to attack the volunteers of the DWG.

@filipecuncha, the aerial images are donated by a number of agencies and companies. The OpenStreetMap community has no impact on when and where they are updated. Furthermore, OpenStreetMap is not about aerial images, we only use them to trace features. They are not meant for end-users for navigation or so. During editing, there are typically a number of sources available: Bing, Digital Globe and depending on the area, images from local agencies.

@LeifRasmussen not true: see osm.wiki/Key:area:highway and osm.wiki/Proposed_features/area_highway/mapping_guidelines

they are mapped as separate area:highway’s from the road area, but still as area:highway

I wonder why you consider the sidewalks as landuse=residential (and the road not). If you split up the landuse, it should end at the building. The sidewalks and roads belong to a “landuse=road” which is mapped as area:highway.

Considering the border of landuse=residential as kerb is something I haven’t heard before.

What many mappers do is indeed to have 1 landuse polygon going over roads if the usage stays the same, but let the landuse end outside the road/sidewalk/road side when it is different on both sides of the road. I only know a handful of people that go in more detail and always let the landuse end at the road side. (not the kerb).

Welche navi ? Garmin ? Android app ?

To add to Warin61’s comment:

There are some iPhone apps you can use to add data while you are “in the field”. I do not have an iPhone myself, but I heard good comments for the following apps:

• [Go Map!!](osm.wiki/Go_Map!!
• Pushpin

More apps for iOS can also be found on the wiki

I guess it is indeed fascinating to be able to map totally different objects on 2 different continents.

The great thing about being editor of Mapper of the Month is that via, via you get to know more and more great mappers. I got your name from David Corley awhile back. I had contacted David for an interview 2 years after seeing his kind responses on the Irish mailing list.

Via your interview (and the retweets and likes on Twitter) I got to know other mappers in Africa that maybe one day I will contact for an interview.

Enough about me, keep up the great mapping work !

Sorry, I missed the irony, but I know that some people have disputes with some members of the DWG regarding reverts and possibly blocks as well. Without further context it is hard to know whether you are doing this as a neutral observer or as someone taking sides with the blocked person.

Indeed, I’m not interested in who did the block, but in who was blocked and who(*) requested the block. I assume the DWG is not handling on their own, but that they are processing requests from the community to block people. So perhaps the people that block a lot just process more external requests than the others.

Some people in the above list only served the DWG for a short period (and are no longer part of it), so it is normal they placed less blocks than others.

I like the comment you gave to explain the spikes on the “Mean Block Duration”, I’m missing that kind of additional information on the last two graphs, that’s why they are “useless”. They just give hard numbers without context, the numbers are not explained.

(*) not the actual person, but was it a group consensus, was it 1 person asking it, that kind of stuff.

Since your last two graphs do not take into account the reason for blocking users, they are useless imho. Maybe woodpeck deals with mappers that destroy a lot of data or in a large area.

I see this as a blame game for the DWG, I think you should have focussed on the reason why people get blocked. But as you wrote “Just in case there are some troubles with the DWG (I am looking into it for a friend)”, your investigation seems biased. If you would have revealed the reason why your friend in blocked (did she/he import from copyrighted sources, did she/he vandalise the work of others ?, did she/he add advertisements ?), I might have an idea why you are doing this research.

Perhaps SEO-spam ? A SEO company can make a lot of different accounts, one for each business they want to “add”. See e.g. this discussion on the Australian mailing list

Those people might not be interested in learning how one properly add a business with advertising.

Do you know about the problems of the current state of the AI applied by Facebook where many line-like features were recognized as road (https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=679826#p679826).

I think armchair mapping is still giving better result at this moment.

So probably in the future AI can be better than humans, but we are not there yet.