En effet, autant considérer qu'elles couvrent tous les angles, bien vu !

https://www.leprogres.fr/rhone-69-edition-villeurbanne-et-caluire/2019/04/12/la-ville-de-villeurbanne-va-developper-la-videosurveillance-en-2019

Si la caméra tourne il y a le tag "camera:type=panning" qui permet de l'indiquer. Si c'est une caméra fixe qui filme à 360° alors aucune idée de comment le tagger

Bonjour,

Je connais pas bien la zone, mais ça me paraît rare des pylônes avec 4 caméras, est-ce bien le cas ici ?

Bien vu, merci pour la correction !

Oui j'avais bien compris. Si cet espace est devenu privatisé et bloqué à la circulation pourquoi pas, mais s'il est toujours public je l'aurai gardé et mis barrier=fence aux deux bouts, et access=no sur les bouts et le chemin.

Bonjour,

Les chemin, même fermés, sont souvent cartographiés sur OSM. Le fait qu'ils soient barrés peut-être indiqué à l'aide du tag "barrier" qui permet d'indiquer précisément la forme de la barrière et les "véhicules" et leur destination autorisés.

De plus, si le chemin reste visible sur les photos satellites/aériennes, d'autres contributeurs risquent de l'ajouter de nouveau sans les barrières.

Nice catch freeber, this time I fixed the three of them : osm.org/changeset/78832473

Hello,

You are adding name:en tags to shops that don't need them (they only have a name in french, no official english name).

I've removed them, please do not add them again.

Bonjour, merci pour votre contribution ! Est-ce que vous savez ce qui est recyclé sur ce point ?

osm.org/node/7052480921

Cela permettra de trouver plus facilement les conteneurs de recyclage par type.

Merci !

Note concernée : osm.org/note/854697

Bonjour,

Les centres de médecine "alternative" ne sont pas catégorisés comme hôpitaux, j'ai donc mis des tags qui permettent aux usagers de ne pas le méprendre pour un hôpital.

Bonjour, la table de picnic a été déplacée loin au nord, est-ce normal ou c'est un loupé ? (C'est commun avec cet éditeur)

Modifications annulées :

osm.org/changeset/77294081

Bonjour,

Est-ce que ces ajouts ne seraient pas des erreurs ?

Un nouveau message de changeset ! Dommage que ce soit toujours un tag source au lieu d'une description des changements.

Là ça aurait pu être alignement voirie, ajout entrées et passage en multipolygone d'une place.

Maybe you're not familiar with Overpass (Turbo), but the way you want to map is not how it's done in Lyon. If you want I can detail the results of the Overpass query.

If you continue lowering the quality of the map while not answering questions from other mappers yes sadly the DWG will need to be involved.

>You speak about Part-Dieu Servient

Yeah I was talking about Servient - Liberté

>Are you arguing that it should have been kept?

Nope

>1 I do not believe that they in any form break PTv2 or are in contrary to it.

Indeed you seem to have undestood that recently, after this first changeset that sparked this exchange :
osm.org/changeset/76235549/

>2 I do believe they are more inline with how bus stops are mapped else where in France.

Less inline in Lyon, more inline in France... What about the world, especially recent high-quality changesets ? imo that's what count

>3 Just because a thing has been mapped in one way in the past doesn't mean it has to stay that way for ever, and to be frank, bus stop in general are not mapped right now in any consistent manner in Lyon. And there are older bus stops mapped by others that are mapped just like mine edits.

Exactly, why should we continue using PTv1 or node-only platforms when we have sub-10cm aerial imagery and nice opendata to map them from

>4 I don't see any problem with having two objects, one for the platform (if there is one) and one for the bus stop.

OSM is a database. Having duplicated or useless features is bad design. In turn, I don't see any problem having only one object where the passengers await, and one object where the vehicle stops.

>I've asked before and I'll ask again; is there a wikipage (or some other documentation) about how to the community in Lyon prefers to map? Just to be clear, I don't expect it to be in English.

No, there is not. But as you can see in my overpass link most stops have use PTv2 and have platforms as ways.

>Specifically the fact that you kept deleting data that I've added to the map that you considered "duplicates" and you did that without any kind of communication. I just noticed it by a chance.

I did answer. And there is no need to ask every contributor before modifying the map. Imagine the infrastructure needed to ask each contributor about each modification, tracking their answers, and mapping long later.

Did you ask me (or anyone) before adding this duplicate platform ?

Please answer to my whole messages, just like I did. You missed explaining :

- Why don't you consider yellow zebras, raised curbs, tactile pavings as valid platforms ?

- Why do you want to overwrite the will of the majority of power-users in Lyon, without asking before ?

- Why don't you use meaningful changeset messages ?

- Do you acknowledge that while there are more PTv1 stops (due to being an older way mainly), PTv2 is the dominant way of mapping PT on recent changeset globally ?

Part-Dieu Servient : It seems that those stops are not in service

Saxe-Lafayette, Edgar Quinet, Foch - Roosevelt Metro, Barrème : You removed the platforms that were well mapped for years, and added platforms as nodes, and kept an highway=platform without any tag.

I can't make sense of what value there is to have two platform objets, in addition to using a node instead of ways for well-defined platforms.

In another changeset you said that such platforms are not visible on the ground. I can quite well see the platform for Edgar Quinet (sorry for the proprietary source):

https://www.google.fr/maps/@45.7655733,4.8445923,3a,51.2y,32.24h,70.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sw16fcj2FQf8dHQHwBlDSzg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=fr

There is a raised curb, yellow zebras, the cycle lane is closed, and all this align with the length of a bus.

Please stop deleting PTv2 features (stop_areas, platforms). You say you are open to dialog but you go on ignoring many other mapper I listed on an earlier changesets.