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143018488 almost 2 years ago

Hey Fred, welcome to the Thailand community!

Just a quick heads-up: not all dirt tracks should be tagged as 'highway=track' in OpenStreetMap. They could actually be residential, service roads, or even unclassified highways.

Take a look at this link for more details: osm.wiki/WikiProject_Thailand#Highway_classification. Feel free to reach out if you have any questions.

Changing the classification solely because of the surface type, as you did, is kind of like tagging just to make the map look better. Here's some info on why that's not the best approach: osm.wiki/Tagging_for_the_renderer.

Don't stress too much about highway classifications; instead, focus on using extra tags like surface, smoothness, tracktype, mb:scale, sac_scale, and so on to give more context.

142668304 almost 2 years ago

Hi Barbara, I really appreciate your contributions! Local insights are fantastic, but tagging can sometimes be a challenge. After checking the wiki, I found that "guest_house=guest_house" isn't a valid tag. Based on feedback from the community, it seems like "building=apartments" is a more fitting tag for serviced apartments, so I went ahead and made that change. Thanks again!

https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/how-to-tag-serviced-apartments/105037/3
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142291115 almost 2 years ago

Hi there! Thank you for your contributions! Just a friendly tip for next time, it's a good practice to save and upload your changes before moving on to the next area. You can find more information on changesets and their geographical size at: osm.wiki/Changeset#Geographical_size_of_changesets

Also adding a clear description makes it easier for others to review your changes. Keep up the great work!
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142080728 almost 2 years ago

Hi there! Thank you for your contributions! Just a friendly tip for next time, it's a good practice to save and upload your changes before moving on to the next area. You can find more information on changesets and their geographical size at: osm.wiki/Changeset#Geographical_size_of_changesets

141326009 almost 2 years ago

Hi StarLord4K, thanks for your contributions! It has come to our attention that you've removed certain surface tags. If the roads are now paved, please consider using 'surface=paved' or a more precise value (asphalt/concrete)
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140656772 almost 2 years ago

Hi there! I've reached out to experts within the global community, and as you can see in the following link, there's a wide range of opinions on this matter. I'll also attempt to get feedback from OsmAnd regarding their preferences: https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/differing-approaches-to-tagging-vending-machines-for-motor-fuel-dispensing-have-caused-confusion/103421
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140656772 almost 2 years ago

I hear your voice, but remember, our mapping community is bigger than just the two of us. There are folks who've been mapping in Thailand for ages, and their voice counts too.

I can tell you're really into your contributions, and that's awesome! But think about how the original mappers might feel if their stuff got changed without a chat. I'm hoping we can all team up to make those northern Thailand maps even better! I'll send you the community topic link soon, but for now, let me savor the rest of my vacation first :)

140656772 almost 2 years ago

Hi pLoskutov, I've been in Thailand for quite a while, about 15 years, so I've got a good handle on the different fuel vending categories here :)

We're facing a bit of a puzzle when it comes to tagging vending machines, and the community didn't quite come to a clear agreement during our last discussion in the Thailand forum.

Like you, I'm eager to find a solution, but I'm currently traveling. When I find some time, I'll put together a new community post summarizing our past discussions and reach out to everyone. We can work together to find a common approach. After that, we can consider submitting a feature request to OsmAnd to update icons and search functions.

In the meantime, it would be appreciated if you could avoid making changes to existing tags. Instead, you could add a note or description. This way, we can make updates more smoothly once we reach a decision.

Thanks a bunch!

140498897 almost 2 years ago

Hi pLoskutov, I'm specifically referring to this segment: osm.org/way/555852322

While we're generally discouraged from using Google for mapping, the street view link below shows two signs related to a Department of Agriculture Cooperative estate and a Watershed Management unit, rather than a residential settlement. Hence 'highway=service' would be the most suitable classification in this case:

https://www.google.com/maps/@19.0595073,98.3151573,3a,29.4y,170.43h,75.68t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s90USCcsb8AZGvZSYnSRSCw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

I understand this might be a bit perplexing, but the designation "highway=unclassified" doesn't imply that the road is impossible to classify. Instead, it signifies that it's a road within the network hierarchy that holds lower significance compared to tertiary roads. In essence, it would have been more fittingly labeled as "quaternary."

You can find detailed information about this in our Thailand wiki, so please feel free to reach out if you have any additional queries.

140285944 almost 2 years ago

Figuring out if a trail is a good fit can be pretty subjective. For example—I ride a CRF250L in Chiang Mai, and I find this specific one trail easy, even when it's wet. Most trails get tougher when it's rainy season, so it's not that helpful for folks. Just imagine if most tracks got tagged this way; the map would be a total puzzle! :)

In general, description tag is the right place to warn users, and name is intended only for official purposes. FYI, It's considered poor practice to use the wrong tags with the intention of making them appear on renderers: osm.wiki/Tagging_for_the_renderer

140656772 almost 2 years ago

Ok. I'd love to see a new icon for vending machine fuel too. However, to make this happen, we'll need to go through a process with OsmAnd. First, we should seek general community agreement on this matter.

Based on earlier investigations and discussions, it appears that the "amenity=vending_machine + vending=fuel" tag combination is primarily intended for detailed mapping of individual fuel pumps within a fuel station (amenity=fuel): osm.wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dfuel

OSM is all about community involvement, and with so many different renderers out there, we can't just create our own tag system and tweak data to make it look perfect on our favorite renderer. 😊

140285944 almost 2 years ago

Thank you for your contributions! I want to mention that I've removed the name tag because it should only be reserved for official purposes and shouldn't be used for descriptive names.
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140285944 almost 2 years ago

Thank you for your contributions! I want to mention that I've removed the name tag because it should only be reserved for official purposes and shouldn't be used for descriptive names.
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140498897 almost 2 years ago

Hi pLoskutov, in our Thailand wiki, unclassified roads are typically designated for important through-traffic routes, especially those leading to official settlements. However, this road appears to be primarily serving a farm estate, so it might be more appropriate to classify it as 'service' or 'track.' For additional information, please see: osm.wiki/WikiProject_Thailand#Urban_and_Local_Road_wide_enough_for_motor_cars
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140656772 almost 2 years ago

Hey pLoskutov, could you please avoid putting test data into OpenStreetMap and delete any made-up stuff? It's important to maintain the accuracy and reliability of the map for all users. Thanks!
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140658707 almost 2 years ago

Hey pLoskutov, could you please avoid putting test data into OpenStreetMap and delete any made-up stuff? It's important to maintain the accuracy and reliability of the map for all users. Thanks!
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140659147 almost 2 years ago

What is reason you removed old_ref tag ?
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140136388 almost 2 years ago

Thank you for addressing these typos! It would be very helpful if you could submit each change individually. It make it easier for others to review these changes. Your changeset spans from England to Australia, and everyone in between see it in their feed.

139993537 almost 2 years ago

I have reverted the wikipedia tag removal in changeset: 140045321
Thanks for reporting it.
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139811670 almost 2 years ago

Hi there! Thank you for your contributions! Just a friendly tip for next time, it's a good practice to save and upload your changes before moving on to the next area. Also adding a clear description makes it easier for others to review your changes. Keep up the great work!