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Added map data for Liverpool / Runcorn / Warrington

I've just done a little more around Birkenhead, and keep doing little bits around Liverpool, however it might be an idea to have a mapping party to get the names added in. Where the aerial photos are hard to interpret it might be worth not touching that area, adding what you can from Yahoo makes the area look complete and can make it harder to edit by people on the ground who are confused about where the data has come from.

Basic mapping completed

If you've got a radio controlled boat then you're still going to need to walk up the bank with it to keep it in range. A diy UAV on the other hand...

The important thing is to make the map usable for navigation, exact widths of waterways isn't vital.

missing country borders

I added in some of the Africa borders from maplibrary myself a while back. I was a little concerned that some of them would be disputed/changeable so I only added in the fairly stable countries. That said, I guess we can always change borders later if there are problems/errors.

Mounting The Phone To My Bike

A rubber band works just as well if you're planning on using a wrist strap as backup anyway, it's also much lighter and cheaper.

My gps traces on a map.

What are the couple of extra lines you added to generate_tiles.py? That seems quite a useful addition in some cases.

Drawing buildings

That looks fantastic using the up-to-date bookmarklet! One thing though, the train station appears to have been moved from the rail line to the railway building. That may be technically correct, but I think it needs both.

Finestret / Espira-de-Conflent

Have you tried the josm Cadastre plugin for that area? For Vinca it's very detailed (it seems the lake and river need work and buildings could be added, but Vinca seems very well mapped) but for the surrounding villages the Cadastre maps aren't very good (unless maybe you know the area)

Mapped Chapelford in Warrington

I'm not sure if all of the new edits around that area are done by you, but I see there's been quite a bit of work done around there since the last Mapnik render. Obviously quite a bit still to do, but well done on work so far.

OpenWeatherService: Why doesn't this exist yet?

Couple of things worth mentioning - cumul.us aggregates weather forecasts from commercial providers and mixes in user-provided forecasts (including what people are wearing as a simplistic way of looking at current weather)

Also pachube, I haven't really played with it but their description of "a service that enables you to connect, tag and share real time sensor data from objects, devices, buildings and environments around the world. The key aim is to facilitate interaction between remote environments, both physical and virtual." seems accurate.

This reminds me of the old days when I'd hook a shortwave radio up to my 486 and monitor the incoming weather data from around the world. After an entire morning of receiving data I'd have a pretty accurate map of weather systems over the Atlantic and could forecast the afternoon's weather. Of course I could also have just looked out the window, which brings us back to cumul.us.

Goldfish shoals nibbling at my toes

Hmm, good point. Oh well, at least I got to play around with sqorl a little.

Borderline

Using the metacarta up-to-date bookmarklet the Österreich label disappears. That may mean it's already been fixed or the official version of Mapnik might be doing something strange that metacarta isn't.

Lincolnshire

OK, so if I do manage to visit this part of the country then I need to take a look at whether the trunk routes are suitable for cyclists and pedestrians. I'm not entirely convinced that's the only reason for bad routing, but it may be one reason.

Achievements

I have two screenshots from Josm to give an idea of where they all are but they only show as unrecognised node types. Current oil wells and Disused oil wells

The DECC were keen to state that they hold no responsibility for any errors or omissions, so they may be aware that this dataset is less than perfect and aren't willing to say so directly.

Node or way

There is a preliminary proposal for using relation=site in that situation, but school is also valid for an area so you can add the boundary of the school and have area=yes;amenity=school for the area.

Buildings within that area don't need amenity=school, and would just have building=yes. A playground within the school would probably be area=yes;leisure=playground;access=private.

If the buildings have seperate addresses (as in a large campus) then you would tag the buildings with addr:street=* but if they all have the same address then the area would get the addr:street=* tag.

Node or way

The wiki shows which amenity tags are valid for areas or nodes or both. Schools and kindergarten should be acceptable as areas. As for shops, they come under the shop key and vary as to whether the tags are valid for areas or separate nodes. So sometimes you will be fine leaving the areas tagged, and not have to make changes.

I'd try and avoid having duplicate data if possible. So where you are adding new nodes because of this restriction, remove the tags from the area.

Hierarchy of places

I've been following the talk list, but not seen any real outcome. Based upon the wiki page for key:place, St Davids should be demoted to village (population below 10,000) but then it would be technically wrong and wouldn't get rendered until too high a level zoom.

I understand about the whole not tagging for the renderer, but maybe a way of telling Mapnik which places are more important to display is better than the technicalities of what is and isn't a city.

Hierarchy of places

I've been following the talk list, but not seen any real outcome. Based upon the wiki page for key:place, St Davids should be demoted to village (population below 10,000) but then it would be technically wrong and wouldn't get rendered until too high a level zoom.

I understand about the whole not tagging for the renderer, but maybe a way of telling Mapnik which places are more important to display is better than the technicalities of what is and isn't a city.

completeness of maps

OK, quick rough and ready count from an xapi export of railway=*:

3334 stations (people have checked that all mainline stations are included, the extra 800 or so stations here will include stations which are tagged multiple times and non network-rail owned stations

7938 meters of line. Hmm, something wrong there, let me see...

highway length sums (metres):
rail 17212699m
abandoned 4333055m
preserved 579200m
subway 437247m
disused 316685m
tram 191097m
narrow_gauge 141371m
light_rail 108768m
station 31080m
construction 20172m
platform 19184m
freight 8031m
miniature 5698m
monorail 3416m
tunnel 3325m
service 2463m
narrow_gauge; abandoned 1914m
incline 1851m
depot 1339m
viaduct 931m
yard 918m
narrow guage 842m
siding 755m
Bristol Harbour Railway 750m
PRT 730m
Platform 310m
level_crossing 206m
signal_box 145m
abandoned; disused 106m
fake 104m
suspended 69m
proposed 61m
cliff_railway 51m
crossing 26m
(type value here) 24m
TOTAL 23424644m

which works out as 10,700 miles of track which I assume is network-rail owned. However, this doesn't take into account the infrastructure or multiple lines running alongside each other which either aren't on the map or are tagged with lines=*.

bridges = 2687
tunnels = 506

So 3100ish tunnels and bridges, but that's across the entire rail network and not just network-rail owned infrastructure. This figure seems very low.

completeness of maps

I'd considered that, however whilst I can derive those figures from the osm xapi export I have it wouldn't be too accurate. I'll have a go at pulling these figures later, but:

Stations can be tagged multiple times in OSM because of platforms not ajoining each other
Track and infrastructure isn't too meaningful, infrastructure would include highway=service lanes around the railway which aren't tagged as railway=*, tracks aren't all owned by Network Rail, etc.
Bridges and tunnels wouldn't account for bridges going over railways, and we don't know if that is counted, plus tunnel=yes would cover much of the London underground system.

UK Rail Network

The grey areas come from Mapnik rendering, and I haven't actually looked into where the data for them comes from.

Mapnik seems to not render things exactly as I request sometimes, which is why I haven't got a key made. This is high on my priorities.

I had a go at adding a permalink function, and it seemed more complicated than it should be. The Openlayers permalink function is easily added, but you then need to get the php to use it when clicked on and that was conflicting with existing code. Again, it's high on my priorities.