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133069997 over 2 years ago

Hello silakshm,

There are several similar problems and beginner's mistakes in other changesets of niskumal and yadavzhi.
I would therefore suggest that you or some amazon reviewer should review all of their recent changesets.
I don't know the changeset number any more, but I saw e.g. ways changed to service roads entirely surrounded by tracks. These ways are probably rather tracks to.

OSMCha (3) is a very good tool for analyzing changesets. You can use the filter function to ony get edits from niskumal and yadavzhi.

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(3) https://osmcha.org/

133069997 over 2 years ago

I restored the deleted ways

133069997 over 2 years ago

Hello silakshm,

You didn't revert the changeset. You just deleted the highways which is not a good solution. These roads exist.
I would suggest to re-add them and and change the highway value to track (or road if you prefer to do a clean revert of the Amazon edits and feel uncomfortable editing without lokal knowledge)

Do you know how to use the Reverter Plugin of the JOSM editor (2)? Thats, in my opinion, the best tool for the job.

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(2) osm.wiki/JOSM/Plugins/Reverter

133113590 over 2 years ago

Hello Heinrich Wegener,

Are there really two toilets ((1) and (2)) in Karitane or is that a duplicate?

Thanks and best regards
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(1) osm.org/node/2881831208/history
(2) osm.org/node/10698729205/history

132332398 over 2 years ago

Den Hof (4) würde ich als landuse=farmyard lassen, craft=winery ist ja schon am Geäbude (5) eingetragen

(4) osm.org/way/98490472/history
(5) osm.org/way/500325883

133072008 over 2 years ago

Hello Deepikja,
Thanks for the quick response.

In OSM there are no wrong or forbidden values. So anyone can come up with a new service=* value if they don't find an established one. See (2) for more on that.

Its of course necessary for a consistent map to agree on common values and document them in the Wiki. Moreover ther is nothing wrong with changing the value to an established after individually assessing a case but systematically and mechanically deleting values just because they are not documented in the wiki is considered a mechanical or automated edit in OSM (See (1) for more on that). This means that planned changes have to be discussed with and approved by the community in advance.

I therefore think that the whole quest/task of deleting non standard values is not a good idea. I'd suggest to desist from it altogether.

(2) osm.wiki/Any_tags_you_like

133016042 over 2 years ago

Wegen "Meine Änderungen überprüfen": Sieht alles gut aus, danke!

Hab noch removed:amenity=post_box ergänzt, damit andere schnell sehen können, dass amenity=post_box nicht ausversehen vergessen wurde

Viele Grüße
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132541648 over 2 years ago

Hallo CarstenM,

danke für die Antwort in der PM.

Ich hab noch mal ToniE gefragt, der sich gut mit ÖPNV Mapping auskennt.

Es gibt keinen Konsens und es ist auch nicht üblich highway=bus_stop zu löschen. Der Tag sollte für die Rückwärtskompatibilität weiterhin getagged werden, da z.B. die OSM "Standardkarte" (OSM Carto) nur highway=bus_stop unterstützt.

Und auch im angeführten Probosal für Public Transport Version 2 (1) steht im Abschnitt Compatibility das well known Tags wie bus_stop nicht ersetzt werden.

Ich würde vorschlagen bei den Bushaltestellen highway=bus_stop wieder hinzuzfügen.

Danke und viele Grüße
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(1) osm.wiki/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Public_Transport&oldid=625726#Compatibility_with_well_known_tags

133007503 over 2 years ago

Hello nadigotm,

to me, it looks like the service road you added is not a road but rather a footway as the southwest end of the way is blocked by bollards.

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133013618 over 2 years ago

Hello nagiseri,

I reviewed your changeset and noticed that you connect roads and landuse areas (e.g. (1)). They have nothing to do with each other and shouldn't be connected therefore.

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(1) osm.org/node/10693297017

132332398 over 2 years ago

Hallo Walzpfander,

mir ist grad aufgefallen, das du diese Fläche (1) als Landwirtschaftlichen Betrieb (landuse=farmyard) eingetragen hast. Landuse=farmyard wird aber nur für den Bereich mit Häusern drauf verwendet (vgl. 2). Die Fläche (1) ist eigentlich ein Weingut (vgl. 3).

Viele Grüße
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(1) osm.org/relation/1412340
(2) osm.wiki/DE:Tag:landuse%3Dfarmyard
(3) osm.wiki/DE:Tag:landuse%3Dvineyard

133069872 over 2 years ago

* I mean Hello yadavzhi of course

133069872 over 2 years ago

Hello niskumal,

why did you delete service=fuel on this road? It's not a standard value but it makes sense so please don't do automated edits that delete rare service values (see (1)). (Undiscussed automated edits are not appreciated in OSM)

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(1) osm.wiki/Automated_edits

133069534 over 2 years ago

Hello yadavzhi,

why did you change the classification of this road from residential to service? Which sources did you use?
The road has a name, so it's probably not a servece road.

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133070912 over 2 years ago

Are you kidding me?

This clearly isn't a service road either

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133071027 over 2 years ago

Hello niskumal,

from the aerial imagery one can easily tell that this footway is way to narrow to be a service road.
Why did you change the classification form path to service?

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133072008 over 2 years ago

Hello niskumal,

why did you delete service=busway on this road? It's not a standard value but it makes sense so please don't do automated edits that delete rare service values (see (1)). (Undiscussed automated edits are not appreciated in OSM)

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(1) osm.wiki/Automated_edits

133069997 over 2 years ago

Hello niskumal,

these roads aren't service roads but tracks.
Please don't do automated edits that change all highway=road to highway=service (see (1)). (Undiscussed automated edits are not appreciated in OSM)

Although the road classification of course isn't ideal as it describes an unknown classification it is way worse to have data with a wrong classification.

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(1) osm.wiki/Automated_edits

132997975 over 2 years ago

Yes, Organic Maps sometimes does weird stuff...

132997975 over 2 years ago

Hello R3gi,

using organicmaps for editing didn't work out very well here, you edited a building:part and not the tourist attraction.
I fixed that.

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