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121864157 about 3 years ago

Hi Martin,

First, I wanted to say thanks for the passion for the project and for bringing the local cultural differences to my (our) attention.
I see what you mean and agree it's important to not lose fidelity in tagging and wanted to thank you for reviewing and helping accomplish that. However, I think this can and should be accomplished within the only the drink:* key. I've edited its talk page to bring about a community discussion about approproate values: osm.wiki/Talk:Key:drink#Replacement_for_%22retail%22%3F

It's been observed that the wiki page for drink:* has been edited without ample discussion, and I think that's part of the problem.

For this instance specifically, I think the beverage selection at this bakery could be described in one tag (my proposal being "drink:wine=retail") but you've brought about the important point that the wiki is unclear.

Since I see you have an OSM wiki page, would you be willing to look at and maybe even comment on the proposal I've made on the talk page for drink:* linked above? I think together we can help clarify this issue for future mappers by improving the wiki.

121864157 about 3 years ago

drink:* does not imply a beverage is to be consumed on the premises. Otherwise every liquor store tagged with drink:wine would be incorrect. See: osm.wiki/Tag:shop%3Dalcohol

121864157 about 3 years ago

Hi Martin, thanks for joining the conversation! While I completely agree with the premise that local knowledge drives quality on OSM, I think there’s definitely a case to be made for making remote fixes (and I think “never” touching objects that a mapper doesn’t know in person is too limiting). For example, if someone tagged the inner of a multipolygon as “innner” I assert that correction should be made even if outside of a mapper’s local area.

For this specific instance, could you link me to the page in the wiki that suggests sells:wine should be used instead of drink:wine? I’ve not been able to find that page but would love your help.

121864157 about 3 years ago

Gotcha. If I’m interpreting you correctly I think the specific tagging scheme should be drink:wine=bottled

Based on the wiki osm.wiki/Key:drink

Thanks for reviewing!

120908806 about 3 years ago

Is way 51653473 intended to overlap the building or are the nodes in it somewhat imprecisely placed?

121740324 about 3 years ago

corrected in changeset osm.org/changeset/121745735

120245945 about 3 years ago

Hi CP74Semnoz! Alsom when editing items tagged specifically as construction, it's often good practice to check in person as OSM generally should reflect what's "on the ground". In this case, construction is incomplete (and the path remains impassible for the time being), so I've gone in and retagged the path as highway=construction

119089979 over 3 years ago

I certainly want to most accurately reflect what is on the ground and agree it's a bit unclear as to the best way to map this. My interpretation of the wiki is, for instances with one building atop a single contiguous school ground, it's best to place address tags on the amenity=school separate from the school building. In fact, the talk page of the article you linked suggests that tagging scheme.

In what way does putting addr:* tags on the school ground prevent one from accurately representing addresses?

119089979 over 3 years ago

Could you please link me to a source on that best practice?

117526773 over 3 years ago

this is a mistake, sorry please feel free to revert

117526773 over 3 years ago

path

116074851 over 3 years ago

Thanks for making that more precise. I'd figured the bollard should have been a member of the way 'west drive' since that's often best practice, but it's clear this situation deviates from the norm given the massive width you've described. Appreciate the comment
-MB

82026455 over 3 years ago

good catch thanks DUGA

114364897 over 3 years ago

description is probably better - updating this to incorporate that suggestion

104834179 about 4 years ago

corrected error

104834179 about 4 years ago

will revert changeset; mistakenly edited admin boundary

103359342 over 4 years ago

observant!

92721412 over 4 years ago

Thank you for realigning. My thought was roughly aligned but named waterways tagged with 'fixme' were better than having none at all...

102746406 over 4 years ago

yes! Didn't source it because link already exists in source of the way: https://edc.nyc/project/east-midtown-waterfront

"Now known as East Midtown Greenway - 53rd to 61st Streets, this northern section of the esplanade connects to Andrew Haswell Green Park at 62nd Street and will include a pedestrian bridge to East 54th Street (In progress)"

102248548 over 4 years ago

source: https://www.walkertownshipwater.org/sites/default/files/ccr_reports/2019_annual_drinking_water_quality_report_final.pdf