OpenStreetMap logo OpenStreetMap

Changeset When Comment
72977918 about 6 years ago

I can agree that PCH from the north end of Dana Point to Crown Valley could be tagged as trunk. But north of Crown Valley into Laguna Beach is it debatable (lower speed limit, many more stop lights, driveways, cross traffic, etc.)

Not sure if that is the same change set or not, looking at the map on OSM it looks like some reversion is needed along that section.

72977918 about 6 years ago

I've already done it. :)

And along the way, corrected the lanes on Del Prado and added turn lanes, etc.

72977918 about 6 years ago

Your comments refer to the legislation regarding the name. Yet the big change I see on at least a couple of sections is changing from primary to trunk.

You did that in the middle of Dana Point where PCH is signed at 35 MPH and has stop lights every few hundred feet. For the US the wiki at osm.wiki/Tag:highway%3Dtrunk specifically says "A relatively high-speed divided road (at least 40 MPH with a barrier or median separating each direction of traffic), with a limited amount of intersections and driveways; or a major intercity highway". This road does not meet that standard and the highway classification should be reverted.

72471452 about 6 years ago

FWIW, after your changes I drove that road this morning to verify my recollections and to get photos for OpenStreetCam.

See osm.wiki/Tag:highway%3Dtrunk and osm.wiki/Tag:highway%3Dmotorway

In particular a motorway needs to have no pedestrians on it. There are no signs prohibiting pedestrians at either end, nor are there the customary for California "Begin Freeway" and/or "End Freeway" signs. On northbound La Pata there is a sidewalk while south bound there is also pedestrian access where the Forster Ranch Ridgeline Trail connects with the trails on the east side via an over pass.

72471452 about 6 years ago

I disagree about reclassifying La Pata between the high school and san clemente as a freeway: The presence of a bicycle lane, etc. mean that it does not meet the legal requirements of a limited access highway.

My previous thought that it was a primary but I'd agree to trunk.

And what is it about deleting and then redrawing part of the south bound way? That lost the previous edit history for no good reason I can see.

71819282 about 6 years ago

No objections in particular. . . I'd been holding off on making those other tagging changes on the campgrounds I'd mapped until the discussion had ended.

71819282 about 6 years ago

I know that tourism=camp_pitch has been approved. But has the other per-pitch tagging you've changed been fully discussed? Seems like the tagging email list is still hashing that out and I've not see an announcement for a vote.

67824935 over 6 years ago

Diddo Omnific's comment. At the very least please conflate you adds/changes with the existing data. Your last attempt at this was reverted and I think this one should to.

67750507 over 6 years ago

Thanks for the clean up and additions in this area.

I see that the tiger:reviewed=no tag is still on some of this. I did not remove it when I edited in the area as I only get to that area once in a while (I'll actually be arriving in Oracle tomorrow). But since you are more local maybe you are better to decide when the various trails/roads are correct enough to remove that tiger reviewed tag.

Thanks for your work!

67412785 over 6 years ago

For the Walmart in my town you've duplicated the store with a new node. There should be only one object for each feature. Old polygon is 395695579 and your new node is 6292287233.

Since there are apparently 4671 nodes you've touched/added here, this seems to be a mechanical edit and poorly done at that as your "OSM Conflator" did not conflate this at all.

66180670 over 6 years ago

Pretty darned sure those are 'service' rather than 'residential'. I tried walking that neighborhood to get addresses a couple years ago and there were no street names and each looked like they were shared driveways.

65991671 over 6 years ago

Curious on how you determined that the service road is oneway. That area is not accessible by the general public so it can't be done by survey. And the aerial imagery doesn't seem to indicate a whether it is oneway or bidirectional traffic.

65597526 over 6 years ago

Interesting: Bing and Esri World have significantly different offsets in this area. I think that is a gated area but I'll try to get some GPS tracks for that street in the next couple of days.

63837815 almost 7 years ago

Hi Keith, Me again. :)

Looks like you and I have similar interests in tagging camping and hiking areas.

Have you considered using the campground tagging suggested at osm.wiki/Proposed_features/Extend_camp_site#Tagging_of_individual_pitches rather than putting names on the individual parking ways?

60942502 almost 7 years ago

They are now merged. With respect to rendering, I noticed this because my private topo map rendering showed two names at this location.

60942502 almost 7 years ago

The photos do show some ruins for the old camp/lodge building that was there but not a formal USFS current campground. That is the reason I originally put a "locality" on it instead of a campground.

At the least, perhaps we should merge the two POI as we are talking about one place.

60942502 almost 7 years ago

Is there really a trail camp here? There did not seem to be last time I was in that area and I don't see one listed at https://www.recreation.gov/camping/gateways/1061

60809670 about 7 years ago

You are correct: My photo of the street sign reads "E Kettle Ave". I've corrected that now.

60809670 about 7 years ago

Likely. I am away from home and my notes & photos so it will take me a couple of weeks to review. Feel free to correct them now with your information.

59505678 about 7 years ago

I don't see how this point, which appears to just be on the beach sand, fits the description of a highway rest area given in the wiki: osm.wiki/Tag:highway%3Drest_area