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135888297 over 2 years ago

Thanks for updating this.

Listed building mapping in England has tended to use the following recently:
heritage:operator=Historic England
ref:GB:nhle=*
inscription_date=*
listed_status=*

The older HE_ref=* key is still very common and there may be instances of ref:GB:he.

I don't think I've seen any instances of heritage:ref=* or heritage:since=* before now and taginfo suggests they are very rare in GB, possibly because they're not documented in the wiki.

osm.wiki/Key:heritage#England

135882477 over 2 years ago

Spam and vandalism reverted in osm.org/changeset/135889017 and reported to DWG.
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131734040 over 2 years ago

Are you sure about that - did you actually survey it and notice the barriers at either end, or the notices about the indefinite closure?

https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/notices/22767-impound-station-footbridge-closed

Reverted in osm.org/changeset/135837441

124020176 over 2 years ago

Hi currybum,

Thanks for editing the map with StreetComplete.

You have marked parts of Alton Road (A31) and Runwick Lane as being prohibited for pedestrians. I cannot find any signage indicating that a prohibition exists in the available streetside imagery. Is this a newly signed restriction, or is there some other reason to believe that a prohibition exists?

Please ensure that if you are marking a road as prohibited for pedestrians, that there is actually a restriction on pedestrians. The vast majority of roads in the UK do not prohibit pedestrians, although they may be unsuitable for pedestrians. Many sections of roads, particularly on dual carriageways and parts of complex junctions may be unsuitable for pedestrians, but that does not extinguish the legal right to use them.

Where pedestrians are prohibited, there will usually be a "pedestrians prohibited" sign (TSRGD diagram 625.1) on a public highway, or the equivalent health and safety sign on private land.
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2016/362/schedule/3/made#tgp1-tbl1-tbd1-tr22
https://www.hse.gov.uk/workplacetransport/safetysigns/prohibitorypedestrians.htm

The StreetComplete AddProhibitedForPedestrians Quest ("Add whether roads are prohibited for pedestrians") adds a foot=no or foot=yes access tag to the road, based on the user's answer. The OSM wiki's description of access tagging states that "Access values describe legal permissions/restrictions and should follow ground truth; e.g., signage or legal ruling and not introduce guesswork. It does not describe common or typical use, even if signage is generally ignored."
osm.wiki/Key:access

125101887 over 2 years ago

Hi Sworrs,

Thanks for editing the map with StreetComplete.

You have marked the northbound carriageway of Blyth Road (A1) where it crosses the Chesterfield Canal as being prohibited for pedestrians. I cannot find any signage indicating that a prohibition exists in the available streetside imagery, either here, or on the slip roads from Retford Road (A620). Is this a newly signed restriction, or is there some other reason to believe that a prohibition exists?

Please ensure that if you are marking a road as prohibited for pedestrians, that there is actually a restriction on pedestrians. The vast majority of roads in the UK do not prohibit pedestrians, although they may be unsuitable for pedestrians. Many sections of roads, particularly on dual carriageways and parts of complex junctions may be unsuitable for pedestrians, but that does not extinguish the legal right to use them.

Where pedestrians are prohibited, there will usually be a "pedestrians prohibited" sign (TSRGD diagram 625.1) on a public highway, or the equivalent health and safety sign on private land.
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2016/362/schedule/3/made#tgp1-tbl1-tbd1-tr22
https://www.hse.gov.uk/workplacetransport/safetysigns/prohibitorypedestrians.htm

The StreetComplete AddProhibitedForPedestrians Quest ("Add whether roads are prohibited for pedestrians") adds a foot=no or foot=yes access tag to the road, based on the user's answer. The OSM wiki's description of access tagging states that "Access values describe legal permissions/restrictions and should follow ground truth; e.g., signage or legal ruling and not introduce guesswork. It does not describe common or typical use, even if signage is generally ignored."
osm.wiki/Key:access

125396813 over 2 years ago

Hi marikoenig,

Thanks for editing the map with StreetComplete.

You have marked the bridge where Military Road (A3055) crosses Shepherd's Chine as being prohibited for pedestrians, however I cannot find any signage indicating that a prohibition exists in the available streetside imagery. Is this a new restriction, or is there some other reason to believe that a prohibition exists?

Please ensure that if you are marking a road as prohibited for pedestrians, that there is actually a restriction on pedestrians. The vast majority of roads in the UK do not prohibit pedestrians, although they may be unsuitable for pedestrians. Many sections of roads, particularly on dual carriageways and parts of complex junctions may be unsuitable for pedestrians, but that does not extinguish the legal right to use them.

Where pedestrians are prohibited, there will usually be a "pedestrians prohibited" sign (TSRGD diagram 625.1) on a public highway, or the equivalent health and safety sign on private land.
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2016/362/schedule/3/made#tgp1-tbl1-tbd1-tr22
https://www.hse.gov.uk/workplacetransport/safetysigns/prohibitorypedestrians.htm

The StreetComplete AddProhibitedForPedestrians Quest ("Add whether roads are prohibited for pedestrians") adds a foot=no or foot=yes access tag to the road, based on the user's answer. The OSM wiki's description of access tagging states that "Access values describe legal permissions/restrictions and should follow ground truth; e.g., signage or legal ruling and not introduce guesswork. It does not describe common or typical use, even if signage is generally ignored."
osm.wiki/Key:access

117326925 over 2 years ago

No problem, the quest is a bit vague in the UK context.

In other countries, there probably isn't a requirement for explicit signage for pedestrians to be prohibited from using the carriageway on roads like this.

We could do with some way of tagging ways where pedestrians are not actually prohibited, but where no routing software should ever contemplate sending them. That doesn't fit with access tagging as currently documented and I have no idea what would work.

117326925 over 2 years ago

Hi,

You have tagged these roads as being prohibited for pedestrians (foot=no) via the StreetComplete app. I cannot find any evidence of "pedestrians prohibited" signs at either end of these sections.

What is your reason for believing that pedestrians are legally prohibited here, rather than it appearing to be inconvenient, unsafe, or inadvisable?

In OSM, access values describe legal permissions/restrictions and should follow ground truth; e.g., signage or legal ruling and not introduce guesswork.
osm.wiki/Key:access

135753992 over 2 years ago

OpenStreetMap is a live database and map and absolutely not the place to carry out test edits.

Fully reverted in osm.org/changeset/135758138

135746993 over 2 years ago

The Scalpel was added in 2017, so I am not entirely sure what the object of this edit was.

You also appear to have inadvertently deleted the adjacent pedestrian area
osm.org/way/681589348

125818762 over 2 years ago

I've added the PRoW tags to this bridleway, which includes foot=designated.

You may already be aware of this, but you can check the mapping status of PRoWs in Hampshire here:
https://osm.mathmos.net/prow/progress/hants/

124967873 over 2 years ago

Although walking around the carriageway of Teville Rounadbout is probably unwise, it isn't actually prohibited. There needs to be a sign (TSRGD diagram 625.1) for that, which isn't the case here.

AddProhibitedForPedestrians is not the most helpful of StreetComplete's quests in the UK for most primary and lower classification roads, as it often results in either redundant foot=yes or incorrect foot=no tags. I usually have it disabled.

osm.wiki/Tag:foot%3Dno
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2016/362/schedule/3/made#tgp1-tbl1-tbd1-tr22

122346312 over 2 years ago

It's probably better to revert to historic=building or use historic=yes

135455213 over 2 years ago

Thanks for checking and updating this and other closed businesses.

As you asked for a review of this changeset, I have a couple of suggestions and have included links to the documentation below. I should stress that nothing you have done is incorrect or urgently needs to be changed - the important thing is that features which no longer exist have been removed from the map.

Rather than removing the amenity=* or shop=* tag, you could use a lifecycle prefix like disused, so in this case it would be disused:amenity=fast_food. This gets picked up by the StreetComplete app, so users will be prompted to check for a new business.

You could also change the name tag to old_name.

Although you have the survey date in the changeset comment, you can also put it in the check_date tag, e.g. check_date=2023-04-28. This is also used by tools like StreetComplete.

It's probably better to add landuse as a separate polygon than to add it as a tag to an existing object ("One feature, one OSM element").

osm.wiki/Lifecycle_prefix
osm.wiki/Key:old_name
osm.wiki/Key:check_date
osm.wiki/One_feature,_one_OSM_element

118822927 over 2 years ago

I fail to see the point of importing w1042953053. a short and unconnected length of footway. Deleted in osm.org/changeset/135419981
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135408126 over 2 years ago

Welcome to OpenStreetMap and thanks for adding your business. In order for it to "work", you need to add tags to display an appropriate icon on the map and tell data consumers what you are. In this case, this would be leisure=sauna (link to documentation below).

If you would like any help with this, please feel free to ask.

osm.wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dsauna

135394056 over 2 years ago

Hi, welcome to OpenStreetMap and thanks for updating Nashes Farm Lane.

The original highway=unclassified tag doesn't imply anything about the usability of the road. It fits on the hierarchy of roads at about the same level as highway=residential. From the definitions in the OSM wiki (links below), this does not look like it should be highway=tertiary.

You could add surface=asphalt to the road, as the surface is currently untagged. There's also smoothness=*, but that's more of a subjective tag.

I hope that's useful. If you would like any help, please don't hesitate to ask.

osm.wiki/Tag:highway%3Dunclassified
osm.wiki/Tag:highway%3Dtertiary
osm.wiki/Tag:surface%3Dasphalt
osm.wiki/Key:smoothness

135349932 over 2 years ago

Thanks!

118822080 over 2 years ago

I fail to understand the point of adding w1042946426. Not only was this part of the C3/CS3 cycle track already mapped as w194387797, the added way was not routeable as it was neither tagged as a highway=*, nor was it connected to any other OSM object.

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135344841 over 2 years ago

Hi, welcome to OpenStreetMap and thanks for updating the library.

For shops and amenities which have closed, you can use a lifecycle prefix rather than changing the name, so in this case you could change
amenity=library -> was:amenity=library instead of altering the name tag. That makes it easier for data consumers to understand that this is no longer a library.

osm.wiki/Lifecycle_prefix