I posted it on reddit aswell https://www.reddit.com/r/openstreetmap/comments/1ab8z77/diary_entry_osm_is_banning_people_for_using_data/

I have linked this from the Australia Community forum as well https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/using-official-data-that-we-have-permission-to-use-will-get-you-banned/108491

@CloCkWeRX please help me understand what you are trying to say with the travellers who got bogged, I used the coords on the video to find the road they were on, its birdsville track. it is the only road going to the lake they look like they were trying to get to. Lets say they were using OSM back in 2021 when this happened it was classified as a teritary road/unpaved https://osmlab.github.io/osm-deep-history/#/way/186428588 , it is now classified as a secondary as per the official government source. how would that have made a difference to what happen to these people. it has a render as primary tag maybe we should remove that. the incident happened when someone tried to guess the class of the road, maybe it wouldnt have happened if they used the official goverment source classification, your argument agrees that leaving it up to people to guess is dangerous and we should use official government source.

osm.org/changeset/145018824#map=15/-34.6131/138.7511 ok this is getting out of hand I dont know what fortera is trying to say here

i am literally engaging with you right now and youre a member of the community, how are you

I am unwilling to engage with this user in particular because this is the person I was talking to when fizzie blocked me from editing OSM, your comment cant force me into a discussion, I didnt ask for this person to comment on my edit, and the person doesnt even understand that I never even split the road. He is commenting to get a reaction from me so fizzie will step in and block me.

actually its not funny I get blocked for dealing with this, its sad we need a new DWG member to represent australia, I have no faith in fizzie

the person doesnt get it haha “Hi there, is there any particular reason why you’ve split Main North Road”

ok now this person is commenting here osm.org/changeset/145018824#map=16/-34.6113/138.7483 2 hours after I made a edit that had nothing to do with what they are talking about in the changeset comment, fizzie would ban me for even trying to reply here I need DWG intervention please

@mxxcon, I replied to the comment on the changeset and clockworkx never replied back to clear this up. bt yeah I never create that section osmcha doesnt show when un-classes lines were created

ok I see what you mean, it looks like I created the section of road. it was showing as a line and got a ID error report so I turned it into a track and it looks like I created it, when you look at the individual nodes you can see it was actually created 9 years ago osm.org/node/2995306071#map=19/-34.86910/138.75425

what else did I do? osmcha shows no changes to its tags.

@mxxcon, because I never edited the class or any of that track, I moved the node on gorge road a tiny bit and it shows that I was the last person to edit that section of that track. I have nothing to do with its class or access or anything. I edited corkscrew road in the changeset

@someoneelse, ok ill drop it, OSM has been my sort of hobby over the time and I se OSM in my cars navigation. I am here to make the map better every week I dont really care what other people edit I just know my edits are solid and based on fact I just wish people find there own thing to do instead of singling out my edits just because I go ahead and do them with out having 3 millions talks. I like the OSM project and I like editing it. I would take a job at a mapping comapny if I had the qualifications and will to get a job.

@someoneelse discord was the only place I interacted with people, I was literally banned because the australian DWG member hangs out there and didnt like how I came across. I was not aware that DWG members can making judgements based on reading discord chats or even allowed to hang out there in a official manner. I didnt even break any rules other than the australian DWG member felt like swinging his bat. My diary entrys are just making people aware that this can happen and nobody cares. and now it has lead to this user having free reign over edits because the bias australian DWG member is in his corner and nobody cares

@someoneelse, I am more than open to discussion but I have been banned for talking about edits by fizzie with this very user so I would be dumb to even try at this point.

@someoneelse this user is now making these edits osm.org/changeset/144986140#map=16/-34.5910/138.7349 I just had a look at gawler river road for starters, fortera changed it from residential to unclassified. Data SA says it is a local road and this edit is made up. Now because I was banned for engaging with this person they pretty much have free rain to do as they please with the map because I am the only one in Adelaide who actually checks the class of these roads with the official source. Where is the information coming from giving this user free will to go ahead and make the changes.

@kovoschiz discord literally has nothing to do with OSM, a DWG member is not required or expected to hang out there in any official manner. the DWG was not called upon for intervention and the discussion was over with for a day when fizzie put the ban on my account.

@kurisbrooks I have every right to be a bit careful interacting with people here

I did and I did not get a reply so he knows he is in the wrong here. I am a regular mapper in South Australia aswell