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64184668 almost 7 years ago

Dear JJIglesias, please provide a human-readable changeset comment when uploading edits. "#VillagesBO;#OSM_Inspector;#AjusteTrazasGPS;#PoblacionesBolivia;#RiosyLagosBolivia;#CaminosyCarreterasBolivia;#CambioNombreCalles" is not sufficient for a human being to understand what your edit is about. Please also consider if the multitude of hashtags you are using is actually helpful. Thanks!

64190191 almost 7 years ago

Dear user Nodia, please provide a human-readable changeset comment when uploading edits. "#hotosm-project-5424;#MissingMaps;#MissingMaps;#VenSit;#Bhoot;#Boil;#Pathao;#MissingMaps" is not sufficient for a human being to understand what your edit is about. For example, "traced buildings in <name of city>" or something like that. Please also consider if the multitude of hashtags you are using is actually helpful. Thanks!

63325888 almost 7 years ago

You seem to be adding name:ar to many different objects in different places. It seems unlikely that you have first-hand knowledge of all these places. Please state your source for the arabic names. If you are simply translating/transliterating the English names, then please stop; we don't do that in OSM. If your source is something else, then please mention it so that we can be sure its license is clean to use in OSM.

59711754 almost 7 years ago

Please do not perform such mechanical edits. They add no information. The is_in tags aren't generally used any more - the fact that a place is in Africa is clear from its coordinates, it does not have to be made explicit in an is_in tag.

61036753 almost 7 years ago

If the local people have the power to set their own names then I am sure they will have put up road signs or village name signs, and then I would ask you to submit photos to prove it. Otherwise, please put the name used by the colonial-influenced government in "name" and the local name in "loc_name".

63899837 almost 7 years ago

Tamazight2001, can you supply a photo with a road sign that shows the name you claim to be used locally, or is it just a verbal tradition?

63610038 almost 7 years ago

DWG here. Most of our members are thousands of miles away from Washington State so while we could just issue some more or less arbitrary rule, it would be much better for the project if you, the local mappers, could agree! From looking at the changes, I'd say that yes, norcross's initial edit was unwarranted and problematic as he himself agrees; Omnific's revert was ok but he's needlessly opened himself up for criticism by blessing some of the edits and reverting others where if the reason for a revert is "undiscussed mechanical edit" you can't keep half of it and revert the rest! Benny Goodman's revert of Omnific's revert has now restored the "norcross" state. Dropping landuse=industrial on the grounds that this is implicit for a water treatment plant is not something that should be done without a discussion on a relevant mailing list. Is there a chance for all of you to discuss this calmly in public? I think the landuse=industrial should be reinstated but, thousands of miles etc. -- by the way, many of these plants seem to violate osm.wiki/Names#Name_is_the_name_only - I'm sure they are not named "wastewater treatment lagoons" ;)

63797799 almost 7 years ago

Hello Pikse, I also think that your approach is questionable. Apart from potential legal issues with the data source, I have a hard time seeing the value of a name:es tag being added to a small city in Asia with the same content already present in name:en (or even in the main name tag). Nakaner is right about our approach regarding transliterations; if you want to question this please do it in a larger forum (e.g. talk mailing list) instead of simply ignoring it because "it doesn't look like a policy to me". There's also a general unsolved problem with the name:xx tags and that is that we in OSM usually require that things should be verifiable on the ground. If someone claims "the name of this place is Blah", and I say "I don't believe you", then we can always go to the place and ask the locals. Now if you take the name for some small city in Asia from the Insitute for the Estonian Language and add it - who's going to verify that? We'll have a hard time finding an Estonian who lives there and who says "yes, this is really what we Estonians here call the place". So I would at least recommend a very cautious approach when adding foreign-language names to places.

53689019 almost 7 years ago

Dear Nikita, I'm with the OSMF Data Working Group dealing with legally problematic data sources. Please understand that any use of a copyrighted source - even with the best intentions or under the assumption that it was legit - has the potential to cause trouble for OpenStreetMap when the rights holders sue us, or maybe just discredit us as "data pirates". We want to respect copyright and only use sources that are either out of copyright, or openly licensed. Now unless those maps that you bought are old enough to be out of copyright, or unless they bear some sort of public domain dedication, then copying data from these maps into OSM is not legal, and we need to remove the data again. Can you tell us exactly which maps you took the data from - when were they published and by whom? And is all data that you contributed in Laos from these sources?

63867551 almost 7 years ago

Bitte anstelle gegenseitiger Reverts (und Beleidigungen) einen Konsens suchen. Mir scheint auch, dass in diesem Changeset nur wenige Änderungen strittig sind, stattdessen aber kurzerhand das ganze Changeset revertiert wurde. Das ist nicht gut. Diskussion zum Beispiel in diesem Thread https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=64270 - "usage=industrial + service=* wird...als gültige Kombination betrachtet."

63869021 almost 7 years ago

Bitte anstelle gegenseitiger Reverts (und Beleidigungen) einen Konsens suchen. Mir scheint auch, dass in diesem Changeset nur wenige Änderungen strittig sind, stattdessen aber kurzerhand das ganze Changeset revertiert wurde. Das ist nicht gut. Diskussion zum Beispiel in diesem Thread https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=64270 - "usage=industrial + service=* wird...als gültige Kombination betrachtet."

63869021 almost 7 years ago

"Damit X in OpenRailwayMap richtig dargestellt wird" ist kein zulässiger Grund für eine Daten-Änderung.

63268937 almost 7 years ago

Hast Du irgendeinen Beweis für die Annahme, dass "die Wikipedianer" mit den Datenherausgebern gesprochen haben? Vielleicht sagen sich "die Wikipedianer" ja auch einfach: Ach, was solls, wir haben viel Geld, wenn die sich beschweren, lassen wir das unsere Anwälte machen. Die Sache ist nur die: Die OSMF hat nicht "viel Geld", und die Wikipedia wird bestimmt nicht ihre Anwälte zu Hilfe schicken, wenn jemand zu uns kommt und sich beschwert.

Die Wikipedia hat ihre eigene Herangehensweise an diese Sachen, und die stimmt nicht mit unserer überein. Wenn Dir die Wikipedia-Herangehensweise mehr behagt, dann engagiere Dich dort.

Daten, die von admin.ch in OSM "abschreibst", egal ob mit Wikipedia-Umweg oder ohne, werden früher oder später gelöscht werden, egal wie sehr Du mit dem Fuß aufstampfst, also spare Dir und uns doch einfach die Mühe.

Der Kern von OSM ist nicht die "Verbreitung von freiem Wissen" - das ist ein Wikipedia-Motto. Wir sind gemeinhin die, die die Kartendaten überhaupt erst erheben. Bevölkerungszahlen sind da ein bisschen eine Ausnahme, weil wir ja nicht selbst eine Volkszählung machen, aber Bevölkerungszahlen überhaupt zu verbreiten ist gar nicht unser "Kerngeschäft", und daher schon gleich zweimal nichts, wofür wir einen Streit mit einer Behörde anfangen würden.

63268937 almost 7 years ago

Das richtige Vorgehen hierzu, und das haben wir Dir schon tausendmal erklärt, ist, nicht mit irgendwelchen Anwälten von Wikipedia oder sonstwem zu reden, sondern mit den Herausgebern der Daten. Wenn die der Ansicht sind, dass ihre Daten nicht nach OSM gehören, dann kommen die da auch nicht rein, völlig egal, was ein Wikipedia-Jurist sagt. Du gibst hier immer den Freibeuter der Meere und möchtest der Welt beweisen, dass man den Wunsch irgendwelcher eidgenössischen Datenherausgeber ja ungestraft ignorieren kann, weil man das Recht auf seiner Seite hat. Das kannst Du auch im Privaten gerne tun, aber nicht bei OpenStreetMap. Bevor Du Daten von admin.ch einträgst - ob mit Wikipedia-Umweg oder ohne - klärst Du bitte mit admin.ch ab, ob denen das recht ist. Und zwar Du, nicht ich.

63268937 almost 7 years ago

Wir schreiben keine Daten von Wikipedia ab, da gibt es keine Diskussion, weder mit Dir noch mit den Rechtsexperten der Wikipedia. Selbst wenn die Daten in der Wikipedia rechtlich sauber sind, so stehen sie dennoch unter der CC-BY-SA-Lizenz, die uns zwingen würde, die auf diese Weise nach OSM gelangten Daten wieder unter dieser Lizenz weiterzugeben, was wir nicht tun.

63761515 almost 7 years ago

Yes, I looked at it and noticed it was the "test balloon" they must have used for their software. It is the web design agency behind the "onloma" brand, but they tagged themselves as "shop=computer". Another mapper fixed that to "office=it", only to be overridden again - automatically, I assume - to "shop=computer", so I tought I'd throw that in with the bunch.

63743201 almost 7 years ago

Youtube-Filme sind keine Möglichkeit zur Kontaktaufnahme und sollten daher nicht als contact:youtube verlinkt werden.

63744025 almost 7 years ago

Wenn Öffnungszeiten an aufeinanderfolgenden Tagen gleich sind, bitte nicht für jeden Tag einzeln auflisten. In diesem Chagneset wurden ausserdem zahlreiche nützliche, vom Benutzer d_berger vor Ort gesammelte Informationen entfernt - warum?

63745229 almost 7 years ago

This changeset has no useful description. The object has no tag that would explain what it is. If you upload a business to OSM, please use a suitable tag to describe it (e.g. shop=*, amenity=*, whatever).

63756716 almost 7 years ago

Hello Aleks-Berlin, I see that you are trying to repair bugs BUT this is not the first time that your quick repairing of bugs has helped to mask a bad import/edit that *should* have been wholly reverted. The next time you stumble on a wide-spread error like an empty tag-value combo, pause for a minute and check what you're doing. This particular edit here was a mechanical edit in which you "improved" objects that were clearly bogus to begin with (e.g. the location of node 6004113986 which is supposed to be a shop but it's on an open plaza). I have asked you in the past not to perform mechanical edits and I will have to consider a longer-term block if you continue to add "pseudo fixes" like this which "improve" something that you would have recognized as rubbish has you taken the time to look.