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28819905 over 10 years ago

All right, it's been a week so I am now going ahead and reverting the following list of deleteing changesets on behalf of the DWG:

28796127
28796946
28796962
28808425
28808611
28819183
28819610
28819668
28819735
28819839
28819905
28819922
28819932
28820084
28820242
28820246
28820281
28820362
28820440

28819905 over 10 years ago

Hi KDDA, there's no timeframe for the DWG, case-by-case basis, as we've heard nothing back about the townlands deletions, but we'll likely go ahead and revert them very soon. Sorry to be vague here, it's all very much a volunteer effort.

28819905 over 10 years ago

hi KDDA,

Indeed i'm involved in this discussion on behalf of the DWG, another mapper brought the deletions to our attention saying he didn't want to make a big deal of it, but it looks like some data disruption is being caused. See also osm.org/changeset/28819735 for the deletion of a townland relation.

However, i would say that on balance the user's edits over time look constructive, so i've written to ask more about the motivation behind the deletions and how we can work out an equitable solution.

As usual, everyone would benefit from leaving more explicit changeset comments; it doesn't have to be an essay, just a good sentence...

28819735 over 10 years ago

This changeset appears to delete a townland relation created as part of the "Mapping Townlands" project:

osm.wiki/Ireland/Mapping_Townlands

28819905 over 10 years ago

The townland appears to be from the "mapping townlands" effort and is needed in some cases for addressing and local navigation.

osm.wiki/Ireland/Mapping_Townlands

28834070 over 10 years ago

I appreciate the response, Nev!

In my personal capacity, i think "tagging for the router / tagging for the renderer" is a trend with long legs...

28834070 over 10 years ago

dear Nev,

One of my DWG colleagues had the following suggestion about footpath mapping: "In reality I suspect it's not really a separate footpath at all but just
a roadside sidewalk, so I'd have thought that sidewalk=left/right/both
on the road itself would be the best representation of the situation
within the data. That has the downside that almost nothing renders it,
though."

It would help with negotiations with other more routing-centric mappers if you too could use longer changeset comments, explaining the motivation for changes in a bit better depth...

- Jo

28831572 over 10 years ago

macht bisher nichts, then

(Sorry, i don't speak German!)

28719057 over 10 years ago

In this changeset you appear to have deleted a footway that has been contributed by manual survey by another editor: osm.org/way/222299583

Can you explain a bit about what motivated this change? The comment on the changeset briefly mentions routing; what kind of routing application are you working on that involves deletion of footpaths which are present in the world according to other OSMers?

28831572 over 10 years ago

Thank you for your edits to OpenStreetmap.
Did you know that in the iD editor, you can leave a comment with each change? This helps other editors to see more easily what you are adding and changing on the map; clear comments are helpful and recommended!

28799534 over 10 years ago

You're contributing some changesets with a lot of deletions to tagged ways, and they stretch right across Europe. There's too much going on in each changeset to easily explore the consequences, so it would be good to have a clear description of what you are changing and why, rather than the repeated "osmi routing view fixes".

I take it that osmi refers to osm.wiki/OSM_Inspector/Views/Routing but is deletion of data necessary in these cases? It would be good to hear more in the comments or discussions about what motivates these changes.

28770763 over 10 years ago

excellent, high quality work

27703147 over 10 years ago

hello zuppet

28714074 over 10 years ago

Some of these edits appear to be in the middle of the Atlantic ocean.

I would check the accuracy of your work in progress. It's a good idea to include fewer edits in each set of changes uploaded to OpenStreetmap, so that others can more easily tell what has changed.

28411356 over 10 years ago

if you've been re-aligning streets to bing imagery, it is likely that the bing imagery was not correctly georeferenced in the first place, as some street networks now overlap buildings :(

please check with other sources and/or a manual GPS re-survey before re-aligning road networks to aerial imagery.

I plan to go ahead and revert the alignment-fixing edits on behalf of the Data Working Group.

28471641 over 10 years ago

OpenStreetMap is an attempt to make an accurate map of the observable world.

28614496 over 10 years ago

I chatted with Karine and got her business card recently, didn't know the shop was so new. Cheers for the edit

27924722 over 10 years ago

I vouch for this statement

27878164 over 10 years ago

Yes, it would be good to hear more.

7446404 over 10 years ago

Where is this island?