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Posted by mallok on 3 November 2007 in English.

Hier wieder eine Unklarheit in Aschheim (das letzte Mal war es Dornach):

Die Alpenstarsse nicht nördlich der Tassilostrasse, sondern leicht südlich! Dies habe ich korrigiert. sigi55; falls Du dies liest, bitte melde dich bei mir. Ich habe auch bemerkt, dass die Wege im Nordöstlichen Quadranten von Aschheim nicht korrekt angelegt werden. Wir sollten uns hier dringend unterhalten.

Ansonsten habe ich einige Fahrradwege neu angelegt.

Location: Dornach, Aschheim, Landkreis München, Bavaria, 81829, Germany
Posted by GercoKees on 2 November 2007 in English.

Nou, ik heb de hele Westerschelde zitten schoffelen (was me nogal een klus). Veel ways waren niet gesloten, lagen overelkaar heen en liepen onlogisch doorelkaar. Ik hoop dat het nu allemaal goedgegaan is, maar het ziet er iniedergeval een stuk frisser uit. Er is nog wel een probleem met het overelkaar heenlopen van de kustlijn en de Westerschelde-waterkant. Maar die kustlijn, daar blijf ik nog liever even vanaf. Daar moet iemand anders nog maar eens naar kijken....

Location: Waarde, Reimerswaal, Zeeland, Netherlands
Posted by morwen on 2 November 2007 in English.

mjd - you appear to be under a misapprehension about highway=trunk/primary. When you say


I always thought "trunk roads" connected major areas of industry/commerce/population.


Indeed. More formally, this network connecting major areas of industry/commerce/population is called the Primary Route Network, and is signed in green on the ground. The roads are of no particular quality, so you get some dual carriageways, some roads built to motorway standards, but also some pretty bad roads which nontheless are the best road linking their major areas.


I can't comment on whether the roads in your area form part of the Primary Route Network as I've not been there. But if they have green signs, they should be highway=trunk; if they have white signs, they should be highway=primary. It's quite possible, however, they have white signs, in which case this alteration was wrong.


In the UK you might be tempted to interpret 'trunk' differently, meaning a centrally-maintained road (as you seem to be by saying the government is removing them). This would be wrong for our purposes. Having Highways Agency-maintained roads showing as green and county council-maintained-roads will be useless for navigation - as roads are officially 'detrunked' they are not downgraded in quality; having the colour depend upon the organisation paying the bills for maintenance is not going to be terribly useful.


I'm unsatisfied with the use of two differing interpretations of what highway=trunk/primary means in the United Kingdom on the map. Tagging the Primary Route Network is consistent with other mapping providers, easily shows the routes recommended by the government for getting between major destinations. Tagging the roads funded by the Highways Agency is of no use to anyone that I can tell. Can we all agree on this please?

Posted by mjd on 1 November 2007 in English.

I read with interest the comments that "primary" roads are disappearing! It all seems to be over the worry of ownership and copyright, I am sure that all road names, numbers etc are listed, owned by someone, so how can we put numbers or names to the road. Do the local councils own the copyright of the road name plates? Also what is the worth of a map system which is promoting trunk roads when the government is removing them, we will move to the situation were "our" map shows an extensive trunk road system that does not exist. I always thought "trunk roads" connected major areas of industry/commerce/population. My pennies worth and I am inclined to keep the roads around Scarborough red :-).

The Norwegian Department of Justice suggests NOT to release public-funded map data in the public domain, in a new law that has been available for comments until November 1st. The department will now review the comments and possibly make amendments to the new law. The department aims for the new law to take effect from January 1st 2008.

Different parties in Norway have commented on the proposal and suggested that the map data be released in the public domain. Hopefully, this will be taken into consideration when the final law is written.

Posted by morwen on 1 November 2007 in English.

This morning I got an email from the DfT asking me when I need the list of primary routes by. This is promising.

Went out mapping this morning, trying to pin down NCN route 6 in Leicester. This comes to the city centre from Aylestone by the Great Central Way : a former railway turned into a rather pleasant cycle and pedestrian route; then via a bizarre series of diversions it gets to the canal towpath, diverts from the canal towpath, then back again, eventually heading towards Birstall. Not quite sure what was going on in their minds - there's a much easier route to my mind. Anyway.

While I was in the area, I mapped the new, temporary, path of Upperton Road, opened just a few days ago. Apparently I got there a day too early, though, as part of the Great Central Way was closed off and does not open until tomorrow...

Location: Black Friars, Leicester, City of Leicester, England, LE3 5FH, United Kingdom
Posted by Deelkar on 1 November 2007 in English.

Some of you might know that I'm one of the core developers of the tiles@home rendering client, and sometimes work on easy parts of the serverside code.

Currently I'm more in "firefighting" mode than anything else, only to be stopped by lack of free time and the slowness of the dev server, which runs the serverside stuff.

What I like to see would include a tah.openstreetmap.org server, separate from dev, not a vhost, with it's own disks, and tuned a bit better to meet the requirements of the project. (i.e. lots of fast hdd space, lots of bandwidth, maybe a bit more RAM than dev currently has), but since OSM is a very "if you want something done do it yourself" sort of run project this will take a while, since I don't have the resources in time and money to go to london and set said machine up, apart from the fact that I can't even get into the server room probably, so my only hope is that the publicity and popularity of tiles@home in the OSM project grows to a point where the admins that do have physical access to the servers and the people with the money see a necessity to give it its own server.

Current problems that I'd like to fix, but that are too complex for my time I can dedicate to them:
- use new rasterizer. Inkscape sucks.
- implement better client-server communication to handle error situations
- improve detection and handling of errors in client, especially systemic errors like broken external software
- ...

Posted by morwen on 1 November 2007 in English.


I am seeking a definitive list of roads which make up the Primary Route Network, and also a definitive list of Primary Destinations. SI 1994/1519 says that a primary route is one which is designated so by the Secretary of State. Therefore I assume the Department holds such a list? If so, I would like to know whether this list is available directly to the general public, and further, whether the government asserts any crown copyright in the use of the list for cartographic purposes by third parties.



Further to this, I wonder the same thing about the entire list of classified roads - A roads and B roads both - is such a list centrally maintained and if so, would the government assert copyright or database right in the list?


Finally, I would like to know if there is any method by which interested parties can be notified of any changes to these lists...


Thanks,
Abi
Posted by NicRoets on 30 October 2007 in English.

I guess Microsoft is feeling the pressure from the GCC toolchain and have made various version of their development tools available for free download. Getting eMbedded Visual C installed on my notebook involved copying registry entries from a second XP machine, but now it's running smoothly and integrating well with the debugger.

Now that the serial port works (another hiccup), I can write some NMEA code, bypassing gpsd.

Then I need to make some major changes to gosmore relating to API0.5 and the rapidly growing planet file. I also want to add searching of all tags (not just the names) and when duplicates are encountered they will be ordered from near to farthest.

So there's an exciting new version of gosmore in the pipeline. (Or frighting if you're the leading handset manufacturer and you recently purchased a mapping company).

Posted by HEINZEN on 30 October 2007 in English.

So, nachdem ich endlich zumindest bei einer Renderengine das Ergebnis meiner ersten Arbeit sah, bin ich heute zusammen mit meinem großen Sohn mit dem Fahrrad das angerenzende Mischgebiet in Baunatal Großenritte abgefahren. Leider bleibt mir weiter verschlossen wie man mit dem Editor hier im Web Fahrradwege einzeichnet. Naja, wird sich schon irgendwann loesen.

Posted by mallok on 29 October 2007 in English.

Irgendjemand zeichnet Strassen in Dornach. Ich vermute aus Satellitenbildern... und überschreibt damit Daten, die ich vor Ort per GPS aufgenommen habe. In Theorie nicht so schlimm, aber diese sind ganz einfach Falsch. Beispiel: Rat-Kaffl-Strasse hat NICHT den Verlauf, wie aktuell dargestellt. Die Strecke ist gesperrt!!!! Da kommt kein Auto durch!!! Und damit ist dieser Weg schon gar nicht tertiary! Ebenso sind die Abzweigungen von der Carl Orff Strasse falsch. Die Eine existiert gar nicht!

Ich hoffe mein Post wird "Dir" gelesen. Können wir uns bitte abstimmen :-)

Location: Trudering - Riem, Trudering-Riem, Munich, Bavaria, 81829, Germany