哥改名挺快啊，刚刚还是"fff921"，现在就改成"66666好的号灯"了是吧

你在干什么？你删掉了很多居民区（当然，确实画的不太好，有很大修缮空间），并且把公路网络拖的歪歪扭扭的

你最好给出一个比较合理的解释
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好耶，胜古庄一带我一直很头疼要怎么画，谢谢您！

我在其他群里看二位的争议很久了，我从头往下理顺了一下，下面是送给AntiEntropy的一些建议和意见：

1. 说人话，这不是维基百科，不用张口闭口一个阁下鄙人
2. 无法实地勘测是常有的事，中国这么大指望这么一点编辑者就能覆盖根本是不可能的，大部分人都是在凭着卫星图去armchair mapping，无法实地勘测不代表可以毫无根据的臆测，不知道的就留白，比如公交站名。以及如果为了向人们表示这是起点，让人能直接看到地图就知道这是起点，也可能是步入了tagging for render的误区。
3. 关于公交车站名称的问题，如果要表明具体线路的编号，请在对应线路的relation中添加ref=*来指明。多个站台同名的问题在全国都非常广泛的存在，如果是只在某个站台停靠，关系里面只加这一个站台做成员即可。
OSM遵循的是实地求是的原则，实地如果贴的并非“七路起点”作为站名的标牌，就不要这么做。哪怕实地是个“西门站-大铁棍子医院”，也请照搬上来。你说没人编辑就充数可以理解，但是如果这个名字显然不太可能是实地存在的，最好不要有。
4. 未经校准的卫星影像与真实地物之间永远都是存在偏移的，甚至同一厂商不同年份不同时期拍摄的影像处理后也会有前后的偏移。这是无法避免的。而用GNSS轨迹矫正一来存在法律风险；二来在城市中单独跑一次精度真的糟糕到感人，即使要用来校准也得和滴滴一样有若干条轨迹的线簇取平均。
因此您说因为和目前的卫星影像偏移太大就认为现有的建筑物都偏移了，我觉得是不妥当的。而更离谱的是——您直接把它们删掉了？？我觉得这不合适。
我们不应该因为觉得它偏移了影响绘制了就删掉现有的建筑物——我们是来搞建设的，不是打着建设的名义搞破坏。如果只有一两栋楼和影像有较大的偏移显然应该挪动它们，但当出现系统性的偏移的时候，你更应该拖动卫星影像和现有的数据对齐。
因为自己不愿意处理偏移问题就删掉，实在不应该。或者说北上广之类的大城市内部可能还存在向量不同的若干不同的偏移，但是如果不是做micromapping，还是建议将就着用一下，相对的拓扑关系和位置关系正确就好。

我看您账号注册于2016年，比我早了不少，按说不应该对OSM的运作模式和社区编辑习惯如此陌生。您明明叫AntiEntropy，却做了这么IncreaseEntropy的事……希望这种事情以后不要再发生！

<del>您好！臺北最近是在搞砍樹專案嗎？</del>

这卫星影像看起来还是实在太累人了，啊孩子们两小时能画完一个task也算很不错的真的！没有全部画完。（虽然自认为真的不算新人但是可能还是会有因为高糊Bing看错的，看错的请直接在这里开喷即可——）

https://t.me/OSMTaiwan/13294

相关讨论见上

或可参考 https://today.hit.edu.cn/article/2022/05/20/95015

学校内部路和市政道路混行还挺头疼的

建议学习安徽中科大（指指点点）

别这么干了

在 osm.org/changeset/148945270 里面回退了您的两个纯测试性的编辑

如果需要找一个测试场地，可以去 https://master.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/ 试试看

Currently I'm using [shop=food]+[cuisine=mantou]+[takeaway=only], I guess in future for Huajuan/Jianbing/Wowotou, maybe a new "shop=*" tag proposed for those kind of staple food shop is needed

Revert those all edit because most of those path added can not be trusted. List of this work can be seen at https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/2HkHbqm6pt/ .

This operation was conducted by 快乐的老鼠宝宝 via https://revert.monicz.dev/ , and vote approved in https://t.me/osmchina/124459/127354

Revert those all edit because most of those path added can not be trusted. List of this work can be seen at https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/2HkHbqm6pt/ .

This operation was conducted by 快乐的老鼠宝宝 via https://revert.monicz.dev/ , and vote approved in https://t.me/osmchina/124459/127354

Looks like here are some error in "0. I ask for NMSL that he revert those 4 changeset"

My original meaning is ”我向NMSL咨询，他说他退回了这4个变更集“

I also invite @CactiStaccingCrane join this discussion in osm.org/changeset/148136531

Hello, SomeoneElse, glad to here that you have interest about those question, here are something I need to pointed.

0. I ask for NMSL that he revert those 4 changeset

148136531
148136722
148136944
148137209

1. If this is disputed boundary, then whether just add it to a city/province's relation in one country is justice?

I noticed r17296617(VN claimed Paracel Islands) was added to r1891418(Da Nang) directly as outer member. and r17296618(VN claimed Spratly Islands) was added to r1887959(Khanh Hoa Province) as outer member.

But r1891418 and r1887959 are boundary=administrative and this tag should be used to be the one representing actual control according to description mentioned in osm.wiki/Disputed_territories (it reference OSMF document)

In my point I don't means I opposite the r17296619 or because the relation are truly boundary=disputed. But if this is the case, I think it should also be allowed to establish a similar relation of China claimed region.

In addition, based on the idea of ​​​​equivalence, if there is no problem with the editing of CactiStaccingCrane this time, then I think that if other editors make a move to establish a boundary=dispute relationship and add Hainan Province as the outer changeset, it should also be retained. , like today

Hello CactiStaccingCrane, although I do not want the conflict between countries to extend to us mappers as standalone people, I feel it is necessary to remind you that some of your editors may have some discussions here

osm.org/changeset/148153365

Best wishes

@artem95vlasovets

I've fix all of those ancient town residents with correct tags. They are both a resident and also a tourism attractions.

See osm.org/changeset/148162657

Hello, looks like you are travelling in China and download a organicmap app, this map can let you regist a OSM account and add information to the map. And you add your found place.

First of all, congratulations on your first encounter with OSM.

Please note, however, that any edits you make to OSM will be written directly to the globally shared online database, so edits should conform as much as possible to the requirements in wiki.osm.org. In addition, the name should be in the local language whenever possible and the real name should be recorded. It is not the same as TripAdvisor/openplacereview, so please avoid using a name like "Foreign Business Hotel" that does not look like a normal name. (Don’t increase the price either. On the one hand, OSM does not provide commercial information and will not help you book a room. On the other hand, it may change frequently)

If you need help, we'd be happy to help. I wish you a happy journey in China!

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laoshubaby from OSMChina Community

这么荒凉的地方画多了就真觉得自己像在搞土地普查了，自然资源部还不快来发奖（bushi

Revert those all edit because most of those path added can not be trusted. List of this work can be seen at https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/2HkHbqm6pt/ .

This operation was conducted by 快乐的老鼠宝宝 via https://revert.monicz.dev/ , and vote approved in https://t.me/osmchina/124459/127354

Due to limit of revert tool, this time only revert those 10:

147772215
147732730
147714766
147697481
147696492
147696319
147672550
147643757
147636529
147599046

Revert those all edit because most of those path added can not be trusted. List of this work can be seen at https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/2HkHbqm6pt/ .

This operation was conducted by 快乐的老鼠宝宝 via https://revert.monicz.dev/ , and vote approved in https://t.me/osmchina/124459/127354

Due to limit of revert tool, this time only revert those 10:

147772215
147732730
147714766
147697481
147696492
147696319
147672550
147643757
147636529
147599046

osm.org/changeset/148097648