Hi Kirk

If you open your browser at osm.org or openstreetmap.org, they arrive at the same place, you can start editing.

You will need to log in to do so, but since you are posting you already have an account so this should not be difficult.

If you click “Edit” top left and then “Edit with ID” you can start editing with your browser and making contributions.

Contributions are made by over tracing the shown sattelite images and fillnig out the map in this way.

After over tracing tags have to be added to identify the structure you have outlined. Dots are called “nodes”. Dots joined as a line are called “ways”.

I would just start by (re-) searching and reading to see how things work. You tube might be a good place to start. OSM wikis on tags are also great.

It will take a while to “get it”,

Hope that helps

Having older video’s like the poll presentation video is very helpful.
The results of each poll as well as the question’s asked are very informative.
I learnt about http://blogs.openstreetmap.org from this.
A very helpful aggregated blog :)

Hi @RobJN,

I’ve had a think about 12.5cm maps.
The overtracing benefits need no explanation.

Here are suggestions that can potentially be taken forward, though I am out of time regards helping at the moment

1. Communities Cabinet Secretary in Scotland’s Government Aileen Campbell is very helpful and might have some level of budget for maps for Scotland, and further afield, eg globally, if she can be shown how interconnectivity helps social cohesion. I beleive OSM is a great example of how people can be better connected, especially given the street level detail that can be filled out and custom maps that can be created using the many layers and renderings available.

A pitch about getting local communities involved in mapping I think would be especially attractive. Two good examples of improved connectivity might be
* placing numbered and named fairways on a local government run golf course. Often people living beside facilities have no idea what is next door. When it’s easy to see on a map whats around you everything changes. ps Golf is a sport for everyone in Scotland, Europe, and is not considered exclusive here. Understanding what’s around you opens the possibility of visiting and engaging. Getting people outdoors improves health and wellbeing including mental health. eg this example I completed the day before yesterday osm.org/#map=16/57.1614/-2.0835
* mapping a zoo with detail in Dundee, Scotland, Europe, so that the local community can see what is there. Again, understanding what’s around you opens the possibility of visiting and engaging. Getting people outdoors improves health and wellbeing including mental health. eg this example I initiated and completed osm.org/#map=18/56.48138/-3.04421

Paul Wheelhouse is also very approachable and is responsible for Energy, Connectivity and the Islands including 100% broadband.

I can recommend both as approachable (though very busy), serious and committed to the development and furtherance of Scotland’s interests, and wider interests, at home and abroad.

Bear in mind that at this time the covid priority is sucking all time and financial resources and therefore there might be no budget available or time to discuss the benefits of mapping at this time.

2 National Lottery. I am sure this avenue has been explored many times before.

That is a good candidate statement :)

Hi @Zkir

The diary post above contains a link to a screencast youtube video I made of my experience which spans 13 minutes. Here, https://youtu.be/JtyhdFH39cY

No I was not able to figure out how to get it to overtrace buildings; becasue I do not think it does, for anywhere here in Scotland, Europe.

It seems that Facebook is working on AI recognition for roads, and Microsoft (MS) is on AI recognition for buildings.

I think how this AI works, as far as I know, is MS (or other) would provide suggested AI generated over trace “way” files for buildings in the JOSM plugin or RapidID. Within the JOSM plugin these pre-generated files would be loaded and corrections applied as needed.

There seem to be files available, within the plugin, for parts of California, USA, but these files seemed to me, to have been over traced with ways already.

If it works any other way, then perhaps someone will outline how it does actually work.

If you look at the tail end of the video you will see what I mean

Hi @RobJN,

> “I might be wrong but I think the new datasets that are the topic of this diary post have come from local governments GIS team’s rather than from AI image detection.”

Do local government planning departments not derive all their data from OS data sets in any case, or do they have an agreement with OS to share ownership, given it is likley local authority surveyors make contributions. How does this work.

> “Nevertheless AI buildings is something that Microsoft has been releasing whilst Facebook focused on AI road detections.”

ah, that is interesting. Thank you. I was not aware of Microsoft making building trace contributions via AI.

> “.. we have good road coverage for the UK but would benefit from more buildings. It’s unlikely that we’ll get any “official” data as this is all done by Ordnance Survey and they clearly don’t want to release this as open data.”

Yes, I have gathered over the years that Ordnance Survey won’t release data as open data.
If I ever did know the reason, I can’t remember why.
I don’t know why they don’t.

/> OSM UK has an option to access 12.5cm imagery (at a tiny cost for a company interested in OSM) so let’s discuss… :-D

I don’t currently have access to any funds. Will let you know if that changes. If you have numbers message me, as it would be useful to have at hand.

Hi @Sanderd17

Thanks for your reply. That is useful to know.

Which tool did you use, and since I got no where with this, any chance you could do a screen cast to show what you are doing, or describe how you did this.

Hi Øukasz,

Thanks for the useful query. I used it as such o the industrial site:

[bbox:{{bbox}}][diff:”2015-01-02T09:55:00Z”,”2020-07-10T10:00:00Z”];
(
node;
);
out geom;

and no out line nodes for the ways I might have traced appreared.

So I assume I never actually put it in.

This is a very useful query as I have not re-familiarised myself with osmcha, which does not seem straightforward, at all to use. It probarly is easy to use, and it’s a simple case of the initiated never see the reason it is not easy to use. Could’nt quickly find a simple short usage video on youtube so had to apss on that.

This diff command is going to be a really useful way of checking for local map vandalism, though usually threse are just unintended errors.

Since I mapped 99.99% of the local town, and surrounding vilages, do you know if I can look for all changes not by me. I tried this query, which works, but when I tried to put the ! , to not it, in all the possible places, it did not work

[bbox:{{bbox}}][diff:”2010-01-02T09:55:00Z”,”2020-07-10T10:00:00Z”];
(
node(user:”ABZ_OSM”);
);
out geom;

Thanks for the expanation on out; vs out geom;

I have used the data tab quite extensivley in the past for collecting counts and other street level information. eg outputting addresses of local schools as a list