OpenStreetMap
Hey,
I've just inserted a track (kirchgellersen - heiligenthal - oedeme) and found some...yeah I think it's the worst mapped area of OSM I've ever seen.
There are some streets, without a break (you know, when you're in the editor (potlatch) you click a street and only the part of the street that have the same name is selected and you can join streets then) and without a name.
It taked me ca. 10 minutes to identifie the streets with the help of some online maps...but I don't want to edit that myself...so I would try to ask the mapper who created this crap to give me his tracks, or to bring his work to an end.
The mapper uses the nick "tennet-ahertel" does someone know how I could contact him?
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Discussion
Beachd le NicRoets 26 An Cèitean 2008 aig 23:23
Yes : Go to osm.org/user/tennet-ahertel and click on send message.
Beachd le TomH 26 An Cèitean 2008 aig 23:29
I may have misunderstood you here, but if you're saying that you used other online maps to "identify streets" then I hope you haven't copied names or other information from those other maps into OpenStreetMap without first checking that the license on those other maps allows such copying.
Beachd le Detructor 27 An Cèitean 2008 aig 07:15
@TomH I use them to get the names of the street...I could take my bike and drive to the streets and read the names from the signs...so I don't see that there is a problem...(the online services don't have a copyright on the names...)
Beachd le Detructor 27 An Cèitean 2008 aig 07:18
*edit
thx @Nic Roets
Beachd le robx 27 An Cèitean 2008 aig 07:48
So drive down the streets on your bike and note the names down. It's what everybody else does (I hope). There is copyright on maps -- as I understand it copying a single street name is not a problem, but deriving some significant amount of our data from non-free maps (even if different people only add one name each) would be in conflict with copyright.
This should be explained very clearly in the wiki somewhere; unfortunately, I can't really find such a page... osm.wiki/index.php/Copyright
Beachd le robx 27 An Cèitean 2008 aig 07:51
Regarding the area you're complaining about, it just looks incompletely mapped, no?
Beachd le eumiro 27 An Cèitean 2008 aig 08:11
@Detructor: If the street layout is not quite clear, I wouldn't rely 100% on an online map. I already encountered two streets in form of an "Y", where two longer streets were meeting in a short segment. Some online map named this short segment after one street while in the reality there was a sign with the name of the other street. Maybe an Easter egg in the online map?
Beachd le Detructor 27 An Cèitean 2008 aig 08:25
@robx first comment:
I drive the streets and track them.
But sometimes I don't remember the name of the streets, can I get the name of the street in this case from google?
@robx 2nd comment: nope, the way that is mapped there consists of 2 or 3 ways.
If you go to the edit mode, you'll see that the mapper have a whole street made out of them.
@eumiro: hmm, ty for that...but at saturday I was in this area, because of a barbecue "party" with some friends...and I can say that google is correct there and the mapper have made a mistake
Beachd le Richard 27 An Cèitean 2008 aig 11:34
You can never, ever copy anything, at all from Google Maps - or any other map, unless it's a very old one (typically at least 70 years) and out-of-copyright. If you've forgotten the name of the streets, take better notes!
Beachd le smsm1 29 An Cèitean 2008 aig 11:18
Or go back and resurvey the area. Quite often you need to back to an area a few times to be able to get all the information correctly into OSM.