I think Size? maybe its real name its a fassion marketing based name so the punctuation in the title fits thier style.

The topshop is me not remembering well who recently moved in Iguessed the internal l shap as I saw theire emergance exit in St Ebbs so it might go over or under the other shops to reach it (multi-level site)

I had a look at your linked wiki page and this kind of stuck me:-

Examples of bad situations:

An area object representing a single-use building with a point object inside it. Move the tags to the area object and delete the point.

anyway I looked through the rest. looked though the link on building parts (found I need to make changes to my own entries to meet this other topic) and studied your reasoning and the practice I'd been doing before.
This is what came up with:-
theres usally a higharacy of increasingly detailed ways to map things on osm:-
These range from one node for a whole city, though meny meny optional levels, all the way to fixtures like individual doors as a tagged way.
What a contributer actually maps is based on the time and effort they have to map an object and the acess time and and effort needed to compile surveys of what is there to map.

Now a shop or bussinesses as a node only to me was a quick way of adding data about shops and bussinesses into OSM without needing to start looking at trying to map the shap of the premerses they oprate from. So this means that you cangather a lot of info from the kerbside and shopfronts and make a useful contribution.
Someone else with building infomation can use the infomation to give meeningful tags to there newly drwan buildings (there can be some complexity with some layouts that need indoor arangements were the building is in multiple ocupation and so if uncirtain floating nodes in the building in a sensible order is a helpful way to leave it, till someone with more detailed knowledge comes a long to complete the indoor schemes or just the shop unit arangements.

This is what I used to do. It also seems to match what your link suggested. .. but I seem to think you have a different approach.

I understand that you might like to control where an icon might be put but if I:-
-know the full extent of the building
-have the building fully drawn
-am activly thinking of cramming multi-level room details and possibley sales section infomation features.
-Was working at the south of the building and didn't even relise that the building even had any shop infomation at all and was looking at the arial maps in another window to check the extents for 3 to 5 minuits before I even noticed the shop node already there!
-if I am likley to make a map insert showing only the car collection service road I've just added which might not even show the house at 38 Pembroke Street then I don't think that node would even get download in a small bounding box of the size I used when I drew that road.

=+=Then dosen't it seem more useful to move the tagging onto a well understood building so that the name and details are picked up whichever part of the building I'm mapping (like named parks).

I see a idea like using a routing line in road to carry info, but then atleast the name on the building would help in the mininum case.

I also see the idea that building change and so the back may stop being the same shop, but this is true of most of OSM entries so we map what we knew to the best of our ultimatly lmited knowledge and the enduser always has the knowledge that bit of the map might not always be perfect and upto date unless they sservey and contribute the corrections to make it so.

This is the same with residential flats. so floating addresses with flat orinataded infomation gathering to individual nodes like the address NPLG infomation, the building level they are on, are sort of the minimum if you don't yet have a floor layout to hand.

This allows the Gazzetter compilers to at lest get all the bedsits and flats on to the postal lists (something that people are looking for with OSM from people asking in the help section.

I conclusion I'd like to move at least the name and maybe the address to the building outline and even add possiblly named entrances to the Pembroke street entrances (I think I may have done some already along with that collections rd

Do you think that seems sensible?

I found a nice picture:-
http://ak.t2.tiles.virtualearth.net/tiles/o03131311220-3151-20-114?g=4441

I passed this to help to see if others have a standard solution already the link is https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/46307/how-do-you-tag-an-advanced-cycle-stop-line-or-cycle-box-at-traffic-lights-uk-style

Ok I checked it is still there. Theres only one advanced stop line on this junction; so thats why I only drew one.
There are some more examples along the A420 nearby but they have yet to reach OSM yet.

Two last explination links then I'll discrib the lane pattern:-
http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20121107103953/http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roads/tpm/tal/cyclefacilities/advancedstoplines.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_stop_line

They seem quite common now so OSM should develop a tagging solution for them it this type of situation of areaise'ing

Ok starting at the parking bay at staircase 9 the lanes arn't painted (for economy) but the bay outline is and there is a small disabled patch just before the end (something for later) now when the sidwalk expands out and on-sidewalk cycle parking begins their is a start of a cycle lane on the parking side only.
then a few meters before our feature a warning centre line (ie originaly warning its more risky to overtake here but used everywhere at points to stop or giveway). so now you have three painted lanes the middle lane stops with a stop line on the north face of the feature. in the box the east lane passes the stoping middle lane without a line or symbol and then takes up both lanes. a nice explination cycle symbol is square in the middle of the box in the direction of the travel. Now US Sharrows don't exsist in UK road lining and so the symbol carries no extra meaning about road placement and is just like writing a sign on the street.
At the south face of the feature there is a stop line only in front of the new wide east lane afterwhich the main juction space exsits.
I think I was thinking the mini junction made some sence if you imagine it to be two sucsessive stop juncutions but it is a fudge as a highway=junction is supposed to be an envelope orignaly devised to act a relation free container of all the elements found in named junctions were the space gets a name like carfax (hmm I might just check thats named in miniute).

Now the homework for anyone taking up the chalenge is to lookat all of the above and its links and figgure out how it should all get tagged so all those end userss described get something working automaticaly.

I think using a relation to glue it together is not such a elegant solution. Whats you take on this?

Andrew can you you talk me through the one object per feature concept as I'm to far away from the shop node for it to register as relateing to the building when I'm maping its Pembroke street entrances are we supposed to duplicate the node or should the shop node be turned into a shop shapped area indepenat of the building area?

I'm beginning to feel their might be a flaw with the idea on large sites. There is a detail-taggable entrance node option to show where the entrances are. ..and I was caseing the joint recently in the way it might be indoor maped on four levels. Is the lone node not likely to become lost amongst escalators changeing rooms stairs staff and store rooms?

haveing said all that I'd better check it is still there!

:->

Hmm I guess such an evolving wiki big enough to get lost in.

I think I reserved the space as a second junction next to the other to allow for some method of getting two stop lines automaticaly produced but lost direction half way through so thought I'd come back when I had figured it out.

I simple terms all traffific stops at a stop lie except cyles that pass the other traffic to get ahead for safty and stop at the following stop line (its an overkill in that location but it was probably a popular choice with the cycle lobby!

just got your reply in the refreash is yes think of it like this you have the normal road on the northside the cyclespace in the feature and then after the second stop line on the south of the feature is the reast of the normal traffic-light controled junction.

This is a new one on me (it pays to keep reading an evolveing manual!):-
osm.wiki/Lane_tagging_comparison

This I think is less specific but sets a case for it more:-
osm.wiki/Lane_assist

This is the one I was pointed too I think it talkes varations along the road and lane featurediscrption colours widtihs and surfaceing witch can be useful in oxford and other british places I map with special surface treatments being common to highlight the lanes modal use.:- osm.wiki/Lanes

and find the last page I could quickly find on the subject:-
osm.wiki/Key:lanes

There are common themes and finding time to work thourgh and learn them all and come up with a unified initial implementation is something I need to do in the ner future. But time has run out again here mainly just answering this ;) so it'll have to wait a bit more.

for k-pint info read the following (this has expanded and began to be countrified since I put into the diary about the time I drew the junction. so its likely we could submit a uk advanced stop line feature to this):-

osm.wiki/Proposed_features/Street_area

I'm looking at where I left that I remeber it was something with implementing an advanced stop line in a way that worked with a road lineing in the wiki I'm not sure if it was finished. I think it was a puzel I decided probably after this edit by altering the width of the junction defined space to allow the passing lane not to get mixed up in the stop line under the lining scheme but then shortly afterward someone pointed out the routing line based in carrageway lane definition and modifing scheme in the wiki too and so I was thinking how to make them work together for these kind of renderes too. I think the problem of ghost laneing and crossing lanes possiblly with some based on aditional subordinate routing lines to carry the lane detils like at some rounderbouts might need to be used in those places.

I think I was thinking to simplyfy the increaseingly confusing system by possibley going the whole way to areaising each lane!, and with the junction shrink basicly being a fudge anyway I decided that I'd make the space (on one side only maybe (k-point rules might note have allowed)) a type junction and maybe use some extension to the lane definition system to specificly handle this common feature.
When I looked into the lane definition and change scheme there seemed a lot of parts that had been thought though and I thought I might be able to learn a lot this and then make it fit.
After spending a lot of time on this train of reasurce I needed to to some other areas so left this for now with the junction state that indicates that a junction feature exsists in that part of the road, which is true. Holywell street was had to see at the time to get a good ariel alignment and so I probaly thought I'd sort out parks rd before trying other junctions.

I stopped short of linking well with Broad street as I couldn't get the two parts to line up as they were drwn with different offsets and some of the local buildings have also been out of alignment too.

As my key focus was further up the Parks rd I left this southern end in a good state for the other contributers of areas near here to join there future efforts to if hadn't eventualy come back to it. The the steps and ramp that where new at that time were neatly avoided by all so far:- see the north sidewalk(pavement) of broadstreet coming to a early stop. Incedently you can also see the offset of the weston libray by look at the sidwalk(pavement) thats rounded at a high definition to the most easterly corner neast the junction where discusing.
I think if I get back to this junction I'd eventually get the signs, street lamps, wall lights, [indoor lights], traffic lights, surface types and colours, lane and k-point attubute infomation, and the local buildings fully room defined and the tunnels plotted too --before I thought it was a finished location.

ok planet files these are the data files of the whole of the OSM data described form links near here:- https://switch2osm.org/the-basics/ and obtainable from here:- http://planet.openstreetmap.org/

the osmrender I think was the name that I know the initilal standard render layer by.

Just catching up with some old email and found these comments so lets take a look before closeing in under 8 miniutes ;)

quickly: I did a lot of early areaisation attemps here. so the names get a bit duplicated as that that what I thought then but I fixing it soon.

now those monuvering forecourts. I did write a wiki page about those but Iguess someone removed it for some reason.
Now they are deliberate and I'l do the phlosiphy and the rejection when I have more time. They didn't fit either turningcircle, parkinglane, driveway or just landuse yard but are mix of parts of them while failing to be anyof most of them so I made a new term and wrote the wiki page about it.

Those underscores are just a function of what a editor I used would allow some put in underscores and others just pass spaces into tags.
Time up more latter

the other circles are for area definition Osmrender dosen't do area rendering on major roads by a ploicy descion of themselves but for consistance and the intrest of others that do they were added and I render them offline for instance from the dataproduct version of osm the planet files.

note there are three circles on most of my roundabouts for the areaisation and routing line combined concentricly.

ok so it should be junction instead of highway and copied wrong from another roundabout probably.
Feel free to correct the routings and areas too on all the roundabouts.
they were corrected from mini-roundabouts because of signage and sizeing showed thay weren't supposed to be.

I've trying to understand what you may mean. its supposed to to be a freestanding staircase inside (and in this case using a shared wall) inside a room space on the ground (0) floor and and gallary platform on the first (1) floor where is the highway=corridor bit?
The highway=steps was put there as lot of systems understood this and is like mapping an areaised sidewalk up a flight of steps. like when highway footways pass into buildings but I added the indoor=steps for good measure so the renders that reject anything with an indoor tag would skip it. As with all current area work I used both the area:highway form and the area=yes form to avoid the complaints when I don't.
I'm still not understanding your request?

The nodes did carry level= tags to show which way was up etc.

The site needs an update for the latest phase of construction that moving toward a final form now.