Have uploaded a few GPS traces of ROWs around or on the Roman road running from Cambridge toward Haverhill. Haven't used OSM til now, will see how this works before editing anything.
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Have uploaded a few GPS traces of ROWs around or on the Roman road running from Cambridge toward Haverhill. Haven't used OSM til now, will see how this works before editing anything.
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2008년 9월 14일 15:11에 davidearl님의 의견
Hi Ickogg,
Welcome.
The Roman Road so far is largely mapped from accurate (hopefully) junctions with other roads and e.g. the paths linking with Wandlebury, with the intermediate bits done from NPE maps (which is much less accurate; helped by the fact it is straight though). Your traces for the intermediate sections are likely to be more accurate on the whole. It kind of peters out near Horseheath - when I was mapping the nearby villages I clocked the point it crossed the Streetly End road, but I didn't follow the track more than a few yards, so anything you can do to extend it that end would be very welcome. I noticed it changes status at various points: at some points it is a byway, at others bridleway or just footpath.
Are you local to the area? If so I'll contact you separately to introduce you to some of the other people working in the area - there's a lot of current work going on with footpaths and drove roads, making the detail in South Cambs really very high indeed.
David
2008년 9월 14일 21:08에 Ickogg님의 의견
Hi David and thanks for the welcome. I see from 'Projects' that yourself and others have been extremely active in mapping the area. Well done, all of you!
Yes I'm local, Cambridge, and as far as communications/contacts goes I'd prefer to go with a sub-forum as per your recent suggestion on one of the lists (GB-talk IIRC). I prefer to work alone (physically) but happy to comm and coordinate via a list.
Re the Roman road, I'll trace it entirely over the coming weeks. It does wobble a bit here and there but I wasn't aware of its status being different in different places but as it happens I recently emailed the County Council requesting a copy of all footpath/ROW data, refused because of the usual hogwash about OS copyright etc. I'm not happy with their reasoning let alone that we pay for both OS and the County Council, will be challenging their refusal so wish me well on that, otherwise it means checking the maps held in Shire Hall to verify status of footpaths etc.
Mut
2008년 9월 16일 17:54에 Mark Williamson님의 의견
Hey Ickogg,
Welcome to OSM and the Cambridge OSMers in particular. I've been doing work on footpaths and bridleways around Cambridge but mainly to the West, so far.
Last time I went to the Roman Road I didn't have a GPS so I wasn't able to contribute any data from that (although I did recently manage to add "Mark's Grave" from the NPE map - if you look at my username, you'll understand why I was nervous about visiting that site ;-) Other interesting paths in the East include the Fleam Dyke (not really bike-able nor necessarily a ROW for bikes for much of its length - a mountain bike would help but still probably be tough going) and decommissioned railway coming out of Fen Ditton - no rails, just a long straight road through farmland (punctuated in the middle by some houses with a small train station in their back garden!).
I see you like to work alone, which I definitely understand. Nevertheless if you ever change your mind, feel free to get in touch. I usually go mapping with a non-mapping friend, who comes along for the exploration and the exercise.
Feel free to edit the wiki pages to describe what you're doing; we could really put a Cambridge/Rights Of Way page up (or somesuch) to describe the completeness of footpath / bridleway mapping. A Cambridge mailing list / forum would be awesome though, particularly given the sheer number of mappers building up in their area though; seem to be lots of people joining in now!
Good luck getting useful information out of the council. The situation with OS is pretty dubious in this country, since councils provide the OS with data, then the OS sells proper maps back to them. Any idea what the copyright status is for the maps in Shire Hall? I had thought about checking them out but I assumed that there might be copyright issues in deriving data from it (e.g. with taking ROW types from those maps as opposed to inferring them from signposts in the countryside).
Good luck with the mapping, anyhow.
Cheers,
Mark
2008년 10월 1일 13:53에 Ickogg님의 의견
Hi Mark and thanks for the welcome. I've been busy with other things lately, hence the belated reply here.
I traipse around a fair bit of the country to the east and north of Cambridge, have walked Fleam Dyke & Devil's Ditch a few times for example. My partner drives and she's keen on mapping etc so we have an ally there should there be a need for some gps trace or clarification of OSM data/mapping at a local to regional level. We usually take the dog out each evening somewhere local and weekends we go further afield. I have an old pushbike too and so can scoot about locally fairly easily. I do prefer to work alone. It's not that I'm anti-social, far from it in fact, it's because I need to stick to my own agenda to keep the momentum of my other various projects going! Hopefully we can all meet up for a pint or something at some stage.
I've added one path to the OSM map as a test and uploaded a few gps traces but really want to get this thing with the County sorted out before doing too much mapping of the local footpaths. I'm emailing the County again today with a batch of questions and so hopefully will know what the legalities are re deriving data from the maps held by the County. If there isn't a problem I can get mapping systematically. If there is a problem then I'll be making an issue of it. There could be a problem in that the County website has only recently put up a link to a commercial 'local walks' website: see
http://www2.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/db/pressrel.nsf/729e5777b124350980256b560033a513/b7e5d62b65dde259802574c6005ccb85?OpenDocument
(mind the wrap on that URL) and so there might be vested interests wanting the ROW data kept as far away from public access as possible. On the other hand, that 'commercial' website does seem OK-ish (eco friendly in intent etc) and it doesn't use OS data. That maybe implies that the County is willing to use non-OS map data (eg OSM !) amongst its publicly available resources. Long term, if the County is as pissed of with OS as we are then we (as OSM mappers) might even get some sort of informal/voluntary project going for the county to provide a comprehensive and readily available map of County ROWs. I'll post any info on this to the new mid-Anglia group.
Re the Wiki. Um, Wiki pages have baffled me from the start. I'll only be using Wiki when forced to ;-)
Must dash, apols for droning on
Mut