From the map on openstreetmap.org, click on the '+' sign (top left) and check the Data Overlay. This will open a side panel listing all the features displayed on the map. Click on the grey dotted line in the map and the side panel will show all the attributes for the line.

These are the easiest/most up-to-date maps (used on a Garmin Edge 705): http://talkytoaster.info/ukmaps.htm - I'm sure there are others, but these work for me :)

These are the easiest/most up-to-date maps (used on a Garmin Edge 705): http://talkytoaster.info/ukmaps.htm - I'm sure there are others, but these work for me :)

Great idea :) Whilst you're in there adding the class attribute, it might be good to drop all the name/value pairs of all the node's tags into the 'title' attribute. Then they would show as you hovered over the link (which could then be progressively enhanced by a bit of js).

Hi Vic

I've done editing on a dodgy connection a quite few times - if you open the map in a separate window and check the 'Data' checkbox on the layers (+) menu, you get to see your edits as they're saved (on refresh).

e.g.:

osm.org/?lat=7.11925&lon=-73.1204&zoom=17&layers=B000FTTTT

@JohnSmith hehe - from my own experience, I'm pretty sure Google has a policy/practice of ignoring requests/emails from individuals. I was thinking the persuasion would be more along the lines of the UK's 'Free our data' campaign - via the blogosphere, twitter etc., eventually enlisting the support of 'well known names'. Google appears to respond to public opinion better than individuals.

Perhaps we should try to persuade Google to release the data they obtained 'for free' under a Free licence. Even if the end result is not favourable, if the process is well documented, it could provide others with a better understanding of the difference between free and Free.

A fine example of local, timely mapping at it's best - zoom in to see the glorious detail. Done by the recipient of an OpenStreetMap North Star :)

osm.wiki/index.php/User:Mikel

This is great. Can I suggest you specify you require the 'angle at the centre of the photo' for the verticality meter? On wider shots, it may be vertical at the bottom of the photo and very oblique at the top. Also, would the useful to have a little image of the approximate angle range next to each option - your idea of 'More oblique but still likely good enough for rectifying' may be quite different to mine :)

This is a dilemma I have had with my own edits - the name does not show up until zoom level 14 (which is not very useful if you're browsing/searching the map for POIs, either online or on a printout).

What is the view on adding generic place + name tags so that large estates show up at the same level as (say) villages?

Welcome to the party :)

Here is a useful primer from the Ramblers - in particular #7 & #13 indicating the responsibilities of the local authority:

http://www.ramblers.org.uk/info/britain/footpathlaw/footpathlaw.htm

Part of my motivation for mapping the rights of way is to ensure they are fully and accurately documented so there can be no future 'fudging' (as appears to frequently happen now).

This is a prime example: osm.org/?lat=51.277&lon=-1.39027&zoom=16&layers=B000FTF

The paths appear to have been (un?)officially re-routed. When trying to map them we got quite lost and bumped into the local farmer. Once he understood we were trying to find the rights of way, the 'gerrofmyland' turned into 'I'll drive up and show you where it's been re-routed' - he understood the benefit of having the new route properly mapped and was most helpful - even though (because we were lost) we were 'trespassing'.

This is a question I attempted to ask on the legal mail list (but my mails get bounced for some reason).

Every local authority is legally required to keep a record of public rights of ways - known as 'the definitive map'. For Hampshire this is available online at: http://www3.hants.gov.uk/row/locating-row/row-online-maps (as well as the physical copy in the offices).

*If the public rights of way are not clearly marked or passable, it is the responsibility of the local autority to ensure they are.* This is a statutory requirement. We report sections as and when required.

We do need clear guidance from legal as to what are rights are to that data (*not* the underlying map, but to the legal status of each way).

We are mapping the local area with local knowledge (a human TomTom) so are pretty sure of where most of the rights of way are. Sometimes you will find copies of the definitive map stapled to a post.

As for Ordnance Survey - we have found they are incredibly inaccurate and out of date, where it's done, OSM is much better.

Hi Chris

Having been bitten once or twice, I have developed an aversion to feeding trolls, but as you think OSM is 'such a great idea' *and* you made the effort to create an account and a diary entry...

Remember, there is no 'someone' to 'continue this idea' - except you - and me - oh, and about half a million others.

One the best thing about OSM - no matter what your skill set, there is always something positive you can contribute - it will be your legacy. OSM will improve with every person that gives something back to the greater good.

Google is obviously not listening - all user generated content comes under the same licensing restrictions as the main maps. Google are content to take advantage of the public's confusion with (or ignorance of) the difference between Free (libre) and free (gratis). An unfortunate quirk of the English language.

Regards

Philip

It would seem logical to render all physical ways (at a zoom level 11 and above) - only the width and detail of the line should change as you zoom in. By zoom level 14 or 15, all barriers (gates, stiles etc) should be rendered.

Maps which do not render all physical ways and barriers across those ways should be clearly marked as 'specialized'. This doesn't just apply to bikers and walkers, but to any user of any way (roads, trails, rivers etc). The 'cluttering' effect can be minimized by clever used of light colour tones.

I'm trying to map as many of the rights of ways in my corner of the world for a trail plotting app, but will end up downloading planet.osm just to get useful rendering (e.g. mapnik and osmarender don't show barriers half the time).

I know this is the whole idea of OSM (freeing the data), but I'd like to see this debate opened up.