Are you using PT_Assistant already? For each variation in itinerary, you need to create a separate route relation. For 'telescopic' lines I'm only mapping the longer variations though. Does MTTA provide GTFS feeds that can be used in OpenStreetMap.org?

Sorry voor het late antwoord. Als het ter plekke is nagekeken is het helemaal in orde.

Yes, it took me a while to get it right. Boundaries are fickle.

Hallo Samuel,
Gelieven geen fictieve gegevens toe te voegen in de ovetuiging dat dat Pokémon zou aantrekken. Wij halen dat weg voordat Niantic dat oppikt.
Als je constructieve edits wil doen, ben je natuurlijk zeer welkom. Wij bouwen allemaal samen aan een groot geheel. Er is relatief weinig vandalisme, al is dat wel enigszins veranderd sinds de PoGo-rage.
Dus voetwegen, parken en waterlopen toevoegen waar deze ook effectief zijn: zeer welkom en ook dat heeft enkele maanden later effect.

Hi Adarsh, please don't reuse nodes from other buildings or connect the buildings to the highways. Also try to make the buildings squared/rectangular. There is a button for it in iD, or if that is too cumbersome, JOSM has a buildings tools plugin which allows you to draw buildings with just 3 clicks. If you do it that way, other people don't need to waste their time squaring and resizing them 3 weeks later.

It's indeed over here now:

osm.org/node/1614850309

Hi, I'm sorry about this. I reverted the whole changeset. I didn't try to fix the routes anymore. Sometimes I do, but it's messy too.

Ik kijk er straks naar. Ik ben de busrouterelaties 1 per 1 aan het opladen, vandaar dat de validatie niet op alles wat gewijzigd werd gebeurt. Ik kijk ook eens of er geen betere manier is, zodat ik zelf bij upload zie dat er iets scheelt met de fiets- en wandelroutes. PT_Assistant kan alleszins wel aangeven dat er onderbrekingen in zitten.

OK, it took me a while to figure out how this may have happened. There were more ways affected. I hope I caught them all. When resolving validation errors, there is the suggestion to replace oneway=-1 with oneway=yes. Usually I press r for reverse, but now it seems I pressed Ctrl-d while zoomed out.

I fixed them, sorry about that!

Indeed I made some errors there. Sorry about that.

In fact I see the shelter and the bus stop as 2 distinct objects. The highway=bus_stop/public_transport=platform node as the point to represent the bus stop and the shelter area way as the place where people can take shelter from the elements.
Sometimes I use 1 node from the shelter's way for the highway=bus_stop. Maybe I shouldn't.

I realise it's possible to use shelter=yes on the highway=bus_stop node. But we're mapping in more and more detail all the time. In Belgium you'll often find a bench inside that shelter as well and a waste_basket next to it.

I don't think we should be limited in the amount of detail we can map.

On the other hand I'm also strongly convinced it's best using 1 OSM object per bus stop. In the route relations as well. In many parts around Europe I see a tendency to use 2 and then to add both of them the route relations.

I'm starting to describe this here:
osm.wiki/User:Polyglot/Bus_stops_and_routes

And I tried to create a manual here:
osm.wiki/JOSM/Plugins/PT_Assistant/Mapping_Public_Transport_with_JOSM

I also created some screencasts:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIOXVFq_dQdrkPxcF--dfcA/videos

Hallo SB_10. Bedankt voor de aanzet van bus 430 van De Lijn. Ik heb op basis van hun data de rest ook ingetekend voor alle variantes.

mvg, Polyglot

I created a video about the PT_Assistant plugin. What do you think of it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt-Offxpplo

Hi Tomas, there are many kinds of shelters:osm.wiki/Key:shelter_type

Sorry, my Lithuanian isn't very good. (non existing actually). Do you mean you dislike I reused a node of a shelter for some of the stops?

Something really weird happened to that cycle route. Maybe I shouldn't be mapping when overly tired. (I'm always tired though...). Anyway, I fixed it by going back. I also looked at the other cycle routes and mended them where feasible.
Do you use JOSM? Could you install the PT_Assistant plugin and tell me what you think of how it handles cycle route relations? It's colouring the different 'legs' of where the route splits in different colours. Do you think this helps to map them? The plugin now also indicates when the bicycle and foot routes are not continuous. The problem with that is that very often they are and it's really hard to fix that. The idea was that a mapper would be notified of breaking bicycle and foot route relations when splitting ways, but there are a lot of 'false' positives and it already takes a long time to try and fix the public transport route relations.

I'm not sure we understand each other very well, but OK. As far as I'm concerned. If there is a node next to the way tagged

highway=bus_stop
public_transport=platform
bus=yes
name=
ref=
route_ref=
operator=

The stop is mapped. If there is an actual platform, it's great to map it as a way, but I wouldn't add those ways to the route relations. For that matter I wouldn't add the stop_positions to the route relations either, just the platform nodes, but for some reason that's not how it's on the wiki. I won't be mapping too much anymore in this region, so no worries. I mostly wanted to get an idea how bus stops and routes are mapped in different areas.
If you would feel like having a Hangout or Skype chat, I'm game.

Of course I think it's acceptable or I wouldn'tbe doing it. I agree the changesets are big and it would be better that locals do them.
They take hours of time to work on though. Splitting ways has the consequence of affecting several other route relations, which in turn need to checked too.
I see it as a form of quality control.
I do agree that adding public_transport=platform to the bus_station was probably not the best solution. It would be far better to have a public_transport=platform node and add those to the route relations, but that is information that I don't have and in this case it could also not be inferred from what was already mapped previously. So there is still a lot of work to do for you guys. I hope the JOSM's PT_Assistant pluign can help you do that in a more efficient way.

I started doing this in bus stations, but I'm convinced that it makes a lot of sense at the beginning and end of the routes.
I'm 'traveling' around the world to test the PT_Assistant plugin and also to see how public transport is being mapped in different places.