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130959531 over 2 years ago

Hi Elisa

See above summary showing 21 problems with this edit.

Please check your trace imports:
1) Do not go across buildings. If so map the path around or map a building passage IF one exists.
2) Not on top of existing roads. Cut the paths and roads up and tag each section with the trail relation
3) Properly identify how paths are crossing streams and ditches. A ford, a bridge or a culvert.

I've now repaired quite a few of your paths causing problems such as 1-3 above.. You seem not to notice. Time to improve and verify you're not breaking what is already there. Check back if edits were applied to your previous work and reference those to not cause the same problems with your next edit.

ciao and happy mapping.

130894918 over 2 years ago

Before doing anything to the tagging and relation creations, first mission for you: Verify the motorcar access Pzl Palatucci and southbound on Riviera Ruzante as those are the key hangups for getting into Rudena and beyond where access=no on Ruzante but not on Businello is conflicting. Ground imagery I cannot find signs for indicating motorcar=private+vehicle=private (double to me), the way is actively used beyond the Questura gated entrance. There's a corner sign on Tito Livio telling that traffic is regulated and a direction sign requiring a turn right PLUS traffic light to boot, so whoever goes onto Tito Livio can't go anywhere with the current tagging on the Pzl and Ruzante, -without- any warning of restriction at the Rotonda so drivers are fried at that Pzl point.

On the side, the Pzl geometry could use a tweak or 2 in geometry as it ends at the Civ.6 gate of the Questura (streegt name signs position). There's also a sign for a seemingly closed building passage with name of Via Guelchiere at that square. Maybe map that 'for-the-record' as it physically still exists.

Thumbs up for that 14 Ebike spots charging station right at the street corner where it says no bike is allowed. I like planologie logic. Everywhere the same.

TTYL

130826957 over 2 years ago

Fix con CS osm.org/changeset/130922322#map=19/42.49816/14.12293

Nome d'accordo Il Pescara e Skate GaragAdriatico. add con alt_name tag.

buona mappatura

130826957 over 2 years ago

Ola

Il tuo POI è nascosto perché non esiste un area mappata del campo o dell'edificio. Con area i nome e visibile

Ciao

130867767 over 2 years ago

Hi,

These circles really found a place in your head . While there maybe add any missing yield spots with tags

highway=give_way
direction=forward (not seen any other way except when someone mapped the on and off as a single line.
3)road_marking=give_way

JOSM wont tell you that, but most do have the shark teeth pointing at you.

BTW if you come across any mini roundabouts mapped as full, consider leaving them alone and take the pragmatic view. Interesting discussion at another country chapter, where the consensus was, just leave them alone. Some only exist without central traffic island to facilitate long vehicle passage, non-articulated long busses. Many have a raised, sloped knoll at the centre for the same purpose.

2 rappen

TTYL

130894918 over 2 years ago

Thanks for the offer.

TTYL

130894918 over 2 years ago

The Padova ZTL site spells it out quite nicely, access:conditional, vehicle:conditional to specify who/what/when, the access points inclusive for each zone. I'd start with creating relations of the relevant streets as outlined in https://www.padovanet.it/allegati/C_1_Allegati_17687_Allegato.pdf
Then while tagging it's easy to see which of the 5 is being selected and affected.

130894918 over 2 years ago

Specifically this street is not reachable
osm.org/way/29984714
because this one
osm.org/way/29985042
was tagged as vehicle=private + motorcar=private, not sure why the double here. Permissive is actually generally no good as it allows everything including hazmat.

130894918 over 2 years ago

Sorry about that. The problem of routing in part stems from the ways along the river which has a vehicle=no on it. This prevents cars from even reaching the oneway to Via Rudena north-east bounds and thus kicks off a other navigation issues there in the zone.

130901820 over 2 years ago

Hai mappato strade duplicate Via Camillo Pasti con un secondo nome Via Daniele Manin. Non è permesso. Qual è il nome corretto di questa sezione?
Nota, nome:sinistra e nome:destra sono possibili nel tagging, ma le strade a doppia mappa, no.

Nota i 3 allarme da sopra, bisogno una connezione al croce con Biasioli

Buone mappatura

130852634 over 2 years ago

Hi,

The solution here is to map a simple tree_row which I've just added. The alternate was to outline the wood along the canopy outline. More aesthetically pleasing if you ask me.

ciao

23192536 over 2 years ago

There's something not right about the area around the bridge in Via Rudena. Ruzante is vehicle=private, Businello is access=no, so how do cars get into the area eastbound on Ruderna which now is flagged as a motorvehicle island with knock-on to other streets following.

23192536 over 2 years ago

Blocks on road obstruct all traffic. There's only the 2 planters.
The nightly OSMI update shows half of the routing issues in the area are resolved. There's still somewhere an obstruction that stops the motorcar in-out. I'll check the source which I think is near a bridge

23192536 over 2 years ago

Hi,

The blocks you mapped in 2014 on Pzl Pontecorvo, which in 2020 imagery show as planters to the side of the street allowing traffic up to 2.3 wide have caused an impossible OSM routing issue for the whole area since 2014. No In, thus No Out. I've moved them to the side and retagged them as planters. Tomorrow morning the OSMI update on routing will show if this is the only obstruction or if more reconnaissance needs to be done.
See correction osm.org/changeset/130857578

Since you live there IIRC, you may assist in this. The Inspector report shows all the streets where cars cannot move in or out opposed to absent restrictions in light green lines.
https://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=routing&lon=11.88191&lat=45.40322&zoom=16&baselayer=Geofabrik%20Standard&opacity=0.90&overlays=islands_car%2Cunconnected_open_ends_1

caio

130852634 over 2 years ago

Hi,

You fixed it without fixing it, so I did. ;o)

ciao

130755074 over 2 years ago

Oh dear,

industrial=agriculture 1200+ uses, no negative advises
industrial=winery 200+ uses and advised not to use!

130755074 over 2 years ago

https://www.grammarly.com/blog/ellipsis/#:~:text=An%20ellipsis,%20or%20ellipses%20in,suggests%20there's%20something%20left%20unsaid.

130755074 over 2 years ago

You can read it in the wiki link.

130755074 over 2 years ago

Are you sure...

osm.wiki/Tag:craft=winery

Not good.

130731040 over 2 years ago

Your correction of deviation put ways on buildings. If you do 1 thing, also make sure the rest stays a fit. Everything was a fit!