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Updated Contributor Statistics

SimonPoole님이 English로 2016년 10월 20일에 게시함.

As at the begin of every new quarter since a couple of years, I’ve updated the Contributor Statistics on our wiki.

Naturally the most noticeable thing is the large jump in new users and active users starting in April 2016, which is naturally mainly due to new incoming edits from maps.me users. This is, on first principles, naturally not a bad thing, and annoyances due to bad edits aside, exposing more people to OSM is good.

What I have however noted in discussion is that the impact of the growth of the raw number of contributors is massively overestimated. For example the number of edits (not changesets) per month is essentially unchanged:

Which is not a surprise given that a maximum 0.18% of the edits per month in 2016 to date have been made with maps.me even though at least 1/4 of the active users used the app in the relevant periods. A preliminary comparison with editors that started off with iD show that over the same period the total number of edits per contributor using maps.me is smaller too.

There may be some longer term gains that we can’t see yet, at least anecdotally I’ve seen one maps.me user do an initial edit and then switch to iD, but the numbers indicate that right now that is the absolute exception.

[Update] Small clarification: the 0.18% number includes all maps.me edits not just new contributors.

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2016년 10월 20일 22:20RobJN님의 의견

Hi. Interesting post.

Can you clarify what an “edit” is? Is it adding/moving/deleting a node, way or relation? What about tags? If I was to add a square building=yes (with 4 new nodes). Does that count as 1 edit or multiple?

The reason I ask is because Maps.Me is a basic editor that only allows editing nodes and doesn’t allow “tracing”. As such you’d expect the numbers to be much lower.

May be need a method of measuring “value added” or “effort contributed” rather than just measuring edits or changesets. I appreciate this is not easy to measure (or maybe not possible at all)!

2016년 10월 20일 22:21RobJN님의 의견

As a further point: Focusing on Maps.Me misses the point that the number of edits has staled since 2014. Should we be worried?

2016년 10월 20일 23:24SimonPoole님의 의견

The edits corresponds to the num_changes attribute in the changeset dump, which is roughly the number of objects deleted/modified/created. Creating a 4 node building from scratch should end up with a count of 5.

But that doesn’t really matter, because even if you were to “normalize” the maps.me number by multiplying by 5 (given the popularity of doodling buildings) the total contribution share would still remain under 1%/month.

As to the edit numbers levelling out (which likely they are not, I suspect in reality it is simply not so rapid growth, all a question of how you scale the diagram :-)): in lots of places where OSM is really good we are clearly seeing saturation effects in that the low hanging fruit has been mapped and adding meta data of all kinds tends to be a slow process.

With 60-70’000’000 objects touched in one way or the other each month I don’t really believe that even stagnation would be an issue (one day we will have something near complete coverage of all major features and then undoubtedly the number will start falling, would that be a problem?). .

2016년 10월 21일 13:56Zverik님의 의견

Thanks Simon, your statistics page is great. I’ve updated the numbers on Editor Usage Stats wiki page as well.

To really compare maps.me with other editors, you should filter by POI tags: how many were created, modified or deleted with maps.me versus all other. The result won’t be too high, but certainly higher than a percent.

Also, if we value number of edits higher than number of users, then we consider the map more important than the community. I doubt many people would agree. But there is also a discussion on whether maps.me users are part of the community, so again, we should decide whether a thousand random users are better than a million buildings traced.

In commercial projects, KPI is usually measured either in active users or in actions that generate revenue. OpenStreetMap has no revenue besides donations, so I’d say people are very valuable to the project, regardless of how and why they come.

2016년 10월 21일 14:35SimonPoole님의 의견

To use your analogy from your last paragraph, our main “income” is the time and work our contributors donate. So yes, how much is contributed in that sense is clearly an important KPI and not something that should be glossed over. If we only had contributors using maps.me to edit, well then we wouldn’t actually have a map.

I don’t believe anybody is claiming that the edit count is a perfect metric, but it is clearly a lot better than counting changesets which was never particularly good and has now become completely useless. Separating out POI edits would be rather difficult and would require detailed analysis of every edit, and naturally agreement on what a POI actually is.

I haven’t seen or heard of anybody taking the position that a maps.me user can’t be part of the OSM community, but I would expect such a user to want to be part of OSM and not simply be declared as such for marketing reasons. In turn that requires actually knowing what OSM is and the lack of that is what has been widely criticized.

2016년 10월 21일 14:42Zverik님의 의견

If we only had contributors using Level0 to edit, well then we wouldn’t actually have a map — but you won’t argue each of these level0 users is a strong member of the community.

I agree about counting changesets, even submitted a talk for the State of the Map about that, which got rejected.

Maps.me is a mapping, not learning application, and it cannot devote screens of text to explain OSM and how it differs from other maps. Does Vespucci or Pushpin or OsmAnd explain what OSM is? But we mention OpenStreetMap in every interview and every marketing article, which might have reached somebody.

2016년 10월 24일 18:31Nakaner님의 의견

@Zverik Vespucci and Pushpin are editors. You can only use them for editing. If you install them, you usually know what OSM is.

OsmAnd hides the editing feature in a plugin which has to be activated.

2016년 10월 24일 18:56Zverik님의 의견

Fair point. And maps.me already has a screen that explains to user that they are editing a public database and their contributions will be monitored. I don’t think it is possible to include a full explanation and tutorial on OSM in an application and not lose users because of that, but we are trying to do something right.

2016년 10월 24일 20:06RobJN님의 의견

Either way I value having all the editors as available options. Although I was surprised to find that my stats show just 1.3% of my changesets come from the mobile editors. Maybe that will increase over the coming years…

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