A while back I described how I was showing tree types in woodland. The “unfinished business” there was “what about forest areas where the trees have been cleared?”. Mapping of that is a bit hit and miss. “Forestry” has been suggested, but doesn’t have many takers, and “forest” is actually often used for “the entire forestry area” (at least where I’m interested in rendering tiles for - I suspect it varies considerably worldwide). The wiki page and the standard style rendering discussion don’t distinguish, but I thought it was worth trying to separate out “natural=wood” and “landuse=forest” where the latter is used for “the entire forestry area, including where there are currently no trees”.
Here’s the result:
That corresponds to here in OSM’s standard style. The dark green bit corresponds to “trees” (natural=wood; if there’s a surveyed leaftype then obviously that is shown too). The lighter green bit means “forest, but no trees” (landuse=forest - the lighter green is only visible if there’s no natural=wood also there). The forest and wood colours are defined here; here is the leaf_type handling in the stylesheet and here is where the natural and landuse tags are checked to see whether the current object should be treated as “trees with a known leaf type”, “trees without a known leaf type” or “forest, but not necessarily trees”.
Discussion
Comment from BushmanK on 26 April 2016 at 20:15
There is pretty good tagging scheme for forestry, developed by @igitov , but unfortunately, it’s not translated in English yet. I probably have to do it some day.
Comment from SomeoneElse on 26 April 2016 at 20:29
@BushmanK Interesting - I’ve often added details conveying that sort of information as part of a note (see e.g. osm.org/way/343924077 ) - maybe “wood:age” et al is worth looking at.
Comment from BushmanK on 26 April 2016 at 20:52
@SomeoneElse,
As far as I know, @igitov has certain connection to forestry management, therefore, his scheme is good. Not ideal, for sure, since “mature” seems to be better term than “adult”, for example. I believe, this scheme can be polished and officially proposed.
And speaking of map rendering - I have an idea of using those icons, currently used for wooded areas in Standard style, but with different fill patterns: fully filled for evergreen, half-filled (just one side) for deciduous and other non-evergreen, not filled - for unknown. With leaf type it’s a bit more complicated, since for mixed, needle-leaf and broad-leaf it is possible to use those two tree icons, however, there is no way to indicate unknown leaf type.
Comment from SK53 on 27 April 2016 at 13:19
I’m sure that there are fairly standard cartography symbols for recently felled woodland: usually in the form of a tree icon on its side. I’ve had a go at these before. but not very satisfactorily. Currently I tag these as recently_felled=yes or with year of imagery.
As BushmanK says it may be more appropriate to keep filled/unfilled symbology for deciduous/evergreen. The long discussion about ‘unknown’ woodland type sort of agreed for the double symbol (mixed woods would have a 50/50 split of single symbols).
Many thanks for drawing @igitov’s suggestions to my notice. These do look pretty sensible. I’d probably prefer woodland over wood as the principal ‘namespace’).
Comment from Alan Trick on 27 April 2016 at 16:59
The RU:Key:wood proposal seems reasonable (though in practice things like “start date” are normally only known to the people logging the area to begin with, and things like forest age can be difficult to know). It would be nice if it could be translated to English.
Comment from Warin61 on 27 April 2016 at 22:41
My view;
‘natural=wood’ … trees here. They may be grafted, plated by humans .. etc etc. In other words they are not necessarily ‘natural’ but include artificial, non native … pretty well anything tree. I do think the key word ‘natural’ is a very poor choice .. and should be split into two keys - landcover and landform. For ‘natural=wood’ I read ‘landcover=trees’.
‘landuse=forest’ An area used to harvest tree products … includes lumber, wood pulp, oils (eucalyptus, tea tree etc), rubber, maple syrup. The thing here is ‘land use’ .. the land is used to produce something … in this case a forest. Most of the time it will have trees, some of the time it may have harvesting operations, bare ground, seedlings.
Comment from Warin61 on 27 April 2016 at 22:53
Oh.. forgotten …
In Australia fires occur that can remove tree cover (leaves and small branches). The area then usually revegetates (eg new leaves etc on the old tree). As that is ‘temporary’ I’d not map it. Some of these fires are ‘natural’ - started by lightening. Past practice by the Aboriginals was to make regular low level fires (say less than 1 m height) .. this removed rubbish scrub, encouraging new growth that attracts animal (for hunting) and makes walking through the country easier. They would burn a patch of land this year, a different patch next year. There are attempts to continue this practice .. unfortunately the desire is not matched by the commitment of resources - large areas are not burn off as regularly as they should.