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118637293 over 3 years ago

No worries, I've already made the correction. Just wanted to make you aware because I don't think the editor gives you any warning when the role is missing.

118637293 over 3 years ago

Hello, this item broke the boundary for Plandome heights. Each member of a boundary polygon needs an "inner" or "outer" role.

117367129 over 3 years ago

Hey, sorry got distracted and forgot to respond.

On ways that are part of a route, the ref tag contains both network and route number information packed into a single tag. In the US, we might do something like ref=I-80 for Interstate 80 or ref=I-80;I-90 for places where a road is concurrent with both Interstates 80 and 90. The "I" of course refers to the "Interstate" network that the roads are a part of.

When modeling routes as relations, however, the network tag is used to hold network information, so it doesn't need to be replicated on the relation. So you'd have network=US:I + ref=80 for Interstate for example. This allows, for example, highway shield renderers to display route numbers on highway shields by directly reading the ref tag and eliminates the need to extract out the route number from the network tag.

The standard tile layer does not consume route relations, so the compacted ref tags (e.g. ref=I-80) is what will get displayed on the map. However, relation-aware renderers are able to parse the separate network/ref components on the relation. That's the reason for the different tagging style for ways versus their parent relation.

See https://zelonewolf.github.io/openstreetmap-americana for an example of a relation-aware shield renderer. At some point I would like to add support for Mexico's highways as well, once we can sort out the tagging and make it consistent nationwide.

118614405 over 3 years ago

@Fred What source are you using to determine the value of place tags?

118554695 over 3 years ago

Thanks for the cleanup! The old borders had a lot of stuff glued to them and I got mired in edit conflicts.

118572828 over 3 years ago

Sorry, I accidentally conflated two uploads in JOSM. Did not intend for the BBOX to be this big.

118554695 over 3 years ago

Okay, I've got Triana and Huntsville boundaries re-imported from TIGER/2021. It would be great if you could double-check to see if they show what you expect to see.

118554695 over 3 years ago

Triana boundary is now broken, was valid as of 3/11. Probably impacted by https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/8286

What was the issue with the boundary?

118449421 over 3 years ago

This isn't a rule specific to the US, though of course capital/territory relationships will be quite different from country to country. In any case, I would expect that any contributor working in a country other than their own to have the responsibility of understanding what the local conventions are.

118449421 over 3 years ago

Typo... meant "admin_centre" in comment above.

118449421 over 3 years ago

To elaborate, simply assigning the node associated with the most prominent built-up area of a city or town the admin_label role is not good geodata. admin_label specifically represents a capital/territory relationship.

118449421 over 3 years ago

Yes, it was discussed on the tagging list, most recently in Oct 2021.

A village would not typically be the "capital" of a city or town.

118433131 over 3 years ago

There also appears to be an unattached place node for Jenks:
osm.org/node/151731482

118449421 over 3 years ago

admin_centre is only used for administrative centers such as capitals and county seats. Label is used for holding the ordinary place node associated with a boundary. Typically entities below county wouldn't have an admin_centre role.

118158468 over 3 years ago

Harassment sock puppet account Shipu Innu documented at osm.wiki/User:ZeLonewolf/Sockpuppets

117367129 over 3 years ago

I could use a hand untangling this MEX 1 / BCS 1 routes as they're mixed up in the changeset where I updated the federal highway 1 route.

117367129 over 3 years ago

I've restored the way tagging and added a route relation:
osm.org/relation/13915662

Can you determine whether the northernmost section is supposed to be there? It was tagged that way originally.

117367129 over 3 years ago

Hey thanks for the note. I was working on mapping the Mexico federal highways (e.g. highway 2: osm.org/relation/70954). I found these cases of ref=MEX 2 which looked like they were in error. So I guess I'm confused - do the federal highways and state highways use the same ref scheme? How can you tell the difference between them? I am sure your data source is correct but now I'm not sure how the tagging is supposed to differentiate these two classes of highway.

118239176 over 3 years ago

For anyone confused by this discussion, it's a continuation of the discussion on osm.org/changeset/118237480

113308031 over 3 years ago

Fixed in osm.org/changeset/117867523