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An anecdote on addresses

Posted by aRGUM on 26 ஆகஸ்ட் 2025 in English.

I once walked past a small building, spotted that it’s got an address, and added it to OSM. Then I walked past it again, the building had its facade updated–and the address was nowhere to be seen.

We map a lot of ‘virtual’ objects in OpenStreetMap, boundaries and routes, but even addresses, the holy grail of survey, often end up virtual.

Take osm.org/way/1173366729: there isn’t an address on the building’s facade, yet 2GIS and Yandex.Maps have one.

Is there a private data agreement between the government and map services? 2GIS had some kind of city district polygons (elections related?) that someone even gave a review to asking what they were, and the Ministry of Information and/or of Digital Development already love giving out personal data of citizens to random software companies and banks in the name of ‘digitization’ (my bank’s app has everyone’s status with the police inspectorate and the psychoneurological dispensary and boldly let you see your own!), so it’s very likely.

P.S. The first building is on the cadastre, but there’s no building number, and the latter isn’t even on there at all :/ And don’t even ask whether one may copy from there.

இடம்: Солтүстік, Pavlodar, Pavlodar Region, 140006, Kazakhstan

Apple Data Team *destructive* to road mapping?[1]

Posted by aRGUM on 26 ஆகஸ்ட் 2025 in English.

I have noticed that the Apple mapping team, in their work within Kazakhstan, consistently mismapped various highway=* ways, for example:

  • Mistagging of courtyard highways from highway=service to highway=residential.[2]
  • Retagging of a highway=footway to a highway=residential, seemingly without any on-the-ground knowledge.[3][4]
  • Various other bizarre additions or edits to service highways (also often mistagged), that I sometimes corrected or rolled back.[5]

If the Apple team does not have familiarity with how the highway tags are applied in a country[6] (a country here with a small OpenStreetMap community at that), or the specifics of urban development that span half the continent, then they, simply, should not map, and definitely not make the state of the map ever so slightly worse.

P.S. If anyone wants to fix the scary copy-pasted magically north-aligned square houses that were mapped all across the country, which previously, in part, made me register an alternative account and instead map pointless foreign stuff you’re welcome :P

இடம்: Солтүстік, Pavlodar, Pavlodar Region, 140006, Kazakhstan