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I woke up early morning today and went on a mapwalk to a nearby park. I tracked jogging tracks there and are took coordinates of toilet, shelters etc. I uploaded the gpx tracks and did some basic editing with JOSM. Please have a look here osm.org/go/y9QgQ6o6f– . Please make necessary suggestions.
Also, I would like to add names in Marathi, my native language. Suggest some help document link.
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Komentář od Sachin Patil z 20. 12. 2015 v 05:07
better we upload all the data in english so that every body can understand
Komentář od BCNorwich z 20. 12. 2015 v 07:08
Hello Ganesh,
Welcome to OpenStreetMap. You asked for suggestions so please don’t take offense.
There are a few things that would improve your already fairly good mapping. I have not altered anything at the park so you can see what I’m saying.
There are a couple of sections of way that are not tagged (look like footways).
From the Bing image the shelters can be clearly seen. Like this its best to map the outline of the buildings from the Bing image, then put the tags on the building, it’s still a POI. (folk can then see better (on the map) the size of the feature.)
The toilets are mapped on top of the footway and park boundary, need better positioning, so folk can better see positions of things in relation to other features.
It looks like the center section of path has (in part) been moved north, dragging nodes in the two curved section’s of path out of place.
There is one untagged node on the north east side of the park.
In places the paths and park boundary join, I’m sure this doesn’t really happen, as I said, from the Bing Image and using JOSM you can zoom in and place most of what you have mapped much more accurately.
Lastly your version of JOSM is old and needs updating, there are now many more and better features in it, current version is 9060.
If I can help any more please just ask. Regards Bernard
Komentář od aintgd z 20. 12. 2015 v 07:38
Hello Bernard,
Thanks for your detailed suggestions.
I’m still learning thing about tags; from wiki etc. From the park, the paths were already partially mapped (untagged). I tried to extend the tracks, but I think somehow the paths didn’t upload successfully.
About the mixing of paths and boundary, I thinks it’s because I edited at lower zoom levels. I’ve noted to edited further in full zoom wherever possible. Also, imagery is not available at full zoom sometimes.
Also, downloading imagery is sometimes a problem for me as I mostly operate on mobile network with speed in few kbps only.
But again, I’ve noted your suggestions and will try to implement them further. Please feel free to make any suggestions going further; no offence.
Regards,
Ganesh
Komentář od Warin61 z 20. 12. 2015 v 12:02
Hi,
Use the imagery to give you the relationship between things. Failing the imagery, use your memory/knowledge to give you the relationships. What you are after is that the map represents what is on the ground - their relationship from one feature to another. If something is a little out .. as long as a user can recognize the area the error can be ignored. So if you find the imagery slow/costly .. don’t worry about it .. get the things ‘looking good’ and it should be fine. You can download what OSM already has for an area .. that should give you a basic neighborhood layout and reference for data input locations … avoids the imagery problem.
JOSM has a ‘validator’ … bottom left corner .. click on that and it should bring up its automated concerns. Check them .. remember it is a machine/software and does not know the situation. Anything that it reports as a ‘error’ needs fixing. Anything reported as a ‘warning’ should be checked .. fixed when required.. but if it is what is ‘on the ground’ then ignore the warning. Note that the validator checks everything you have … including any past OSM entries by other people.
Save your work on your local computer and you won’t have to download it all the time… only when someone else makes changes to ‘your’ area .. then there will be conflicts .. either download those and resolve (tend to accept their inputs) or start again with a new download of ‘your’ area.
Hope that makes sense and helps.
Komentář od SomeoneElse z 20. 12. 2015 v 20:06
Just to comment on the “better we upload all the data in english” reply…
As an English speaker, if I’m visiting somewhere where signposts primarily aren’t in English (or are even in a non-Latin script) I’d actually prefer names on a map to match the signposts, rather than be a translation of the local name.
To take an example that I’m familiar with (in Sweden), osm.org/way/20278673 is referred to by everyone as the “Centralbron”, and from memory it’s signposted as that. In OSM someone’s added a “name:en” of “Central Bridge” (that’s just the English translation - I’ve never seen it signposted, although it was a while since I was there). In order for “Central Bridge” to be useful to me I’d actually need to be able to translate the English into Swedish, and then compare that with the signposts. That’s actually more work than just having what’s on the signposts on the map, even if I don’t speak Swedish.
Komentář od PlaneMad z 21. 12. 2015 v 08:13
@SomeoneElse Languages in India is a complex situation and one would see majority of the signboards use both a regional language and English or Hindi.
To simplify tagging on OSM, we have been using
nameto represent the English/Roman name as it would be the most usable. Even though most of India does not know English, the roman alphabet is ubiquitous and in common use.Komentář od SrrReal z 18. 07. 2016 v 14:57
Hi Ganesh,
To add names in any language, this tool is very useful - http://nomino.openstreetmap.fr/
Marathi [name:mr] ranks second at present among the Indic languages in terms of tag count. Stats can be found here