Last week, I went on a short holiday to Co. Cork, and since I seem to be a workaholic, I did A LOT of mapping. One of the things I had on my to-do list was mapping local bus routes, because I personally depend on them (because I care about the planet and don’t drive) and because they are barely mapped. Part of the reason being that some of the bus routes are fairly new. Obviously, I didn’t want to spend all my days on the bus, so I only mapped the ones I actually needed to take to get from one accommodation to the next. That was Youghal to Timoleague and then back to Cork (because the first trip was during the week and the second on a Saturday, so the bus schedule was different). I had met two women in my accommodation in Timoleague who were also only travelling on public transport, one from Dublin, one from California. They both agreed that it was very difficult, because the timetables aren’t available or do not match the actual departure time of the bus. Also, to book a ticket for Bus Éireann (which is not even possible for all their buses), you need to know the exact name of the bus stop you’re going to. You’re not gonna know that unless you know the bus stop. Some of the bus stop names refer to landmarks which are gone (pub/ shop names). So you end up asking a lot of locals to find out where the bus leaves, because a high percentage of local bus stops don’t even have a sign to mark them as bus stops. So anyway, I made a start on the routes 237, 239 and 253 using OSMTracker for Android. I guess it would be good to add payment method as well, because most of those buses only take cash and some buses (in Dublin) only take the exact change, which is something important to know.
Obviously, I did way more mapping like vacant buildings, benchmarks and jostle stones (overpass-turbo) as well as addresses (Youghal needed it).
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په 27 September 2021 په 20:22 باندې د Arnold Shaeffer تبصره
Nothing worse than missing/ catching the wrong bus - Thanks for contributing! Hope to visit Cork next year
په 29 September 2021 په 13:55 باندې د DeBigC تبصره
Whether run by Dublin Bus, or the smaller operators, each bus stop has a specific number and these cover 5,369 locations. The number is printed on the physical infrastructure, and can be searched for in some of the apps that have been developed*. I guess nomatter what you want to do you need to know the number or name of the stop you want get to, especially if you want to have some sort of alert or GPS track to help you know where to get down. For the stops outside Dublin they do not have numbers (which would be an advantage for apps) but they do have names, and on the Transport for Ireland app you simply put in an address you might be travelling to to discern the correct stop you should use to get down. In either scenario you need a name or a number done in your route research before you go, since the services themselves are unpredictable.
Thinking more about this the attributes of the bus stops are scant, and what you might like to know is if the bus has a shelter from the rain, a waiting seat(s), a litter bin, is safely lit, has an accessible boarding kerb, has a toilet nearby etc. It would be a very great advantage if Dublin Bus published these details in its CCBY 4.0 release for app developers to play with, and of course this to be extended to every transport stop in the country.
Lastly there is a proliferation of Flexibus services in rural Ireland, which are off the beaten track and cover places where commercial carriers will not go. These services are like the shop in the league of gentlemen, a local service for local people, as they are routed by phone calls, and stop wherever the passenger wants to stop, within safe limits hopefully.
*There is open data that cannot be used in osm because of the insufficient licence found here