Changeset partially reverted here: osm.org/changeset/158836665

Changeset partially reverted here: osm.org/changeset/158836644

Changeset partially reverted here: osm.org/changeset/158836625

Changeset reverted partially here: osm.org/changeset/158836598

No worries, we all get caught up sometimes.

There isn't really a 'best' way to map these sorts of bulb-outs as linear roadways. As a highway=turning_circle, it's unusually short and stubby, but as a one-way loop following the path of buses, it would imply the existence of a traffic island. In good faith, I've restored the roadway geometry as a turning circle: osm.org/changeset/158834101

I'm sure we're not the first to encounter this, though. I've started a thread on the forum: https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/is-this-bus-turnaround-a-highway-turning-circle/121261

While I'm not sure if there's a way to tag that there's no barrier preventing wrong-way drivers from entering the tracks, crossing:barrier=no refers to whether the crossing is protected by barriers in the expected direction of travel. Perhaps each individual barrier=lift_gate could use mapping here.

oops, I meant LaSalle Street Station

Hi Zol87,

How come you changed the street geometry of the bus terminal back to a one-way loop? This doesn't appear to have any physical divider, which would make it a large highway=turning_circle.

Hi again goldenking05. Thanks for your detailed contributions.

Do these residential streets in Fort Wayne really have Spanish names? On OSM, we generally only tag multilingual names on streets if they're signposted that way—are there Spanish signs here?

Translations removed here: osm.org/changeset/158146899

https://revert.monicz.dev/ is an easy way to revert changesets.

Were there any tagging changes in these changesets, or was it purely adjusting the geometry of things? I'd hate to see your other contributions get undone in the process. If we need to do a partial revert, I'm happy to handle it.

Hi again snake21,

It has been almost a month since you were made aware of this issue, and you seem to have moved on to mapping other things. Could you please resolve the improperly placed railroad switches, or revert your changesets?

-Clay

Hi Zol87,

I see some railroad crossings along the surface-running segment of the Brown Line were retagged to crossing:barrier=no here. It appears that these crossings are indeed protected by barriers as previously tagged. Was this an intentional change?

Hi adnvadnmbasvdgh, and welcome to OpenStreetMap.

I see a section of 103rd Street changed to highway=construction, implying that it is closed due to long-term construction. Was this an intentional change? If so, could you please tell me where you found out that it was closed?

If we're looking at the same imagery (Bing), I see a switch stand about 25 feet to the east—I've gone ahead and moved it to that position [1]. It's much easier to figure out the precise location where the rails "meet up" by finding the neighboring switch stands, rather than eyeballing the converging point of the rails.

[1] osm.org/changeset/157060879

Hi snake21! Thanks for your contributions to railways on OpenStreetMap.

I noticed that in some of your railway changesets that switches have been moved farther away from the actual switch. For example, the node at [1] was originally parallel with the switch stand, and is now about 25 feet west of it towards the frog.

Could you please review your previous edits, and move all the switches back so that they're parallel with switch stands?

-Clay

[1] osm.org/node/2146365782

Temporal restriction, not temporary—in other words, these tracks are restricted to certain types of trains at different times of the day. Even though these tracks carry light rail trains most of the time, they're still built to a higher standard to support conventional freight trains. More examples of this situation can be found in the San Diego area [1] [2].

[1] osm.org/#map=19/32.584523/-117.083760

[2] osm.org/#map=18/33.141931/-117.161298

What is the reason for this edit war? Please participate in discussion before continuing to make classification changes to roads and places.

usage=main is not synonymous with "main line rail" either. On OpenStreetMap, usage=* is indeed subjective. Official government classification is not the only factor we consider when determining the value of usage=*. As with roads, we prioritize connectivity to the national network when determining how to classify them.

We don't retag things to make them show up a certain way on a particular renderer; see [1].

I've gone ahead and reverted the South Shore Line back to usage=branch [2]. To avoid disputes like these in the future, I strongly encourage you to discuss any large-scale edits on the community forum [3] or the OSM-US Slack [4] before proceeding.

[1] osm.wiki/Tagging_for_the_renderer

[2] osm.org/changeset/156450223

[3] https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/communities/us/78

[4] https://slack.openstreetmap.us/

usage=main is not synonymous with "main track". On OpenStreetMap, we tag main track with usage=branch, usage=industrial, or another value of usage, when it doesn't carry long-distance traffic.

Track class can be tagged as railway:track_class=4.

Please revert the South Shore Line, and any other suburban railways you may have edited, to usage=branch.