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I’ve suggested an updated version of the diagrams explaining the tagging of railway stations. The goal is to make them simpler to understand, especially for newcomers, without losing the core meaning. There have already been some feedback and interesting ideas for further improvements.
I invite you to join the discussion — your input would be highly appreciated!
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Bình luận của Endres Pelka vào 13 tháng 04 năm 2025 lúc 12:26
I think the railway=stop nodes should habe their ref=* tags too.
Bình luận của perenniallylate vào 13 tháng 04 năm 2025 lúc 13:35
I have basically no experience with railway tagging, but this is a really solid graphic, especially when compared to the old ones. Much less visual clutter and the fact that its close to the rendering of OSM makes it good. Would love to see them on the wiki soon!
Bình luận của darkonus vào 13 tháng 04 năm 2025 lúc 13:56
Endres Pelka, regarding your comment — I’m not sure if that’s the right approach. You might want to ask some of the more experienced members in the thread.
perenniallylate, glad you liked it, thanks for the support! For now, we’ve agreed not to rush with updating the diagrams so that everyone has a chance to share their thoughts.
Bình luận của Brickblock1 vào 13 tháng 04 năm 2025 lúc 14:07
My understanding is that Public Transport mapping relies on stop_position and platform have either the same ref or local_ref, where local_ref is prefered due to it not conflicting with other tags. it might also be worth adding railway:ref to the station and possibly the stops too.
Bình luận của Carto'Cité vào 14 tháng 04 năm 2025 lúc 14:50
Nice diagram, very clear. However my understanding is that
public_transport=stationcan either be a node or an area that covers the station, and more than 40000 are mapped as an area (closed way). Your diagram suggests to uselanduse=railway + railway=stationinstead. This makes sense however this implies a change to the model that should probably be handled through the proposal process.Bình luận của darkonus vào 14 tháng 04 năm 2025 lúc 16:01
The diagrams are still a work in progress, and the discussion will probably go on for a few more weeks. I’m mostly focusing on the design and layout side of things — the actual tagging decisions are being figured out by others who know this topic better than I do.
Feel free to join the discussion here and share your thoughts.
Bình luận của Koreller vào 16 tháng 04 năm 2025 lúc 16:24
Very good diagram, nice work !
Bình luận của RedAuburn vào 27 tháng 04 năm 2025 lúc 10:55
This looks great! Thank you for your work :)
I believe that railway=platform_edge[1] has entered common usage, it might be good to include that as well?
Bình luận của darkonus vào 27 tháng 04 năm 2025 lúc 14:05
@RedAuburn, I read the wiki and thought about your suggestion on how to reflect this in my diagram. However, I feel that adding it would make the diagram overloaded and cluttered with too many labels. In my opinion, the diagrams in the railway=platform_edge wiki article are already detailed and clear enough.
Thanks for your kind words and support!
Bình luận của tordans vào 28 tháng 04 năm 2025 lúc 07:11
Visual feedback: I did not understand the relation part the first time I read the diagram. Suggestions: - remove the yellow line from the relation info box to the object and rely on the border color only. Or add a line to all the objects that have a border. Having only one line suggests that this is a info box for only one object. - write out the „RELATION“ kind next to the icon or replace the icon. The icon is too obscure for inexperienced users. - does „all public members“ mean „only add public objects in the given are as members“?
Bình luận của darkonus vào 28 tháng 04 năm 2025 lúc 14:14
@tordans, thanks for the feedback! I’ll try to implement it in the new version of the diagram. In the meantime, please check out the current version in the OpenStreetMap community discussion thread. Feel free to join the discussion there, as the version posted here is already quite outdated.
Bình luận của neuhausr vào 11 tháng 05 năm 2025 lúc 18:21
This is a nicely improved design! Coming in late I know, but I wonder if including the text “member of stop_area relation” (or something) for each of those features (ie station, stop, platform) would be helpful to reinforce the yellow outline? Otherwise you have to really study this diagram to make that connection.
Bình luận của darkonus vào 11 tháng 05 năm 2025 lúc 18:38
Hi @neuhausr, Thanks a lot for your kind words about the improved design — I really appreciate it! Just a note that the version shown here is slightly outdated — the latest version has already been updated on the wiki at this link: osm.wiki/File:Railway-station-tagging.svg
In the latest version, the yellow callout now includes the text “Members of the relation, highlighted in yellow” to help make that connection clearer. Still, thank you for the thoughtful suggestion — it’s a valuable point!