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Min Karta for Sweden Mapping

ghost_07님이 English로 2022년 9월 16일에 게시함.

Hi all,

Actually, this note is mostly just for me. One of the approved aerial imageries for sweden is the one used by Min Karta. Just use this as a custom imagery:

https://minkarta.lantmateriet.se/map/ortofoto/?BBOX={bbox}&FORMAT=image/jpeg&HEIGHT={height}&LAYERS=Ortofoto_0.5,Ortofoto_0.4,Ortofoto_0.25,Ortofoto_0.16&REQUEST=GetMap&SERVICE=WMS&SRS={proj}&VERSION=1.1.1&WIDTH={width}

Best regards and peaceful mapping, Dmitry

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2022년 9월 17일 07:22Msiipola님의 의견

Are you 100% sure the image is free to use in osm? Even it’s possible to use it as a background image.

2022년 9월 17일 07:50ghost_07님의 의견

Asked this question both in local Sweden group on FB and in Telegram channel. This data is free for use

2022년 9월 17일 07:53ghost_07님의 의견

Moreover, there is an option to select aerials from Läntmateriet in iD editor, it just does not work due to API update.

2022년 9월 17일 07:57Msiipola님의 의견

FB and Telegram are not the Swedish national authority (Lantmäteriet).

2022년 9월 17일 08:13ghost_07님의 의견

Here is the confirmation that the data is open:

https://www.lantmateriet.se/sv/geodata/vara-produkter/oppna-data/

2022년 9월 19일 06:22ChristianA님의 의견

No, the above link is not valid for “Min karta”. “Terrängkartan” (and some others) are open data, but in general the aerial imagery in “Min karta” is not open data and you cannot use it for Openstreetmap editing.

Have a look at the bottom of this page: https://www.lantmateriet.se/tips-minkarta for more info.

2022년 9월 19일 07:37ghost_07님의 의견

Hmmm. For now I stop using thise aerial imagery, we need to come to a conclusion here: on the very link you sent earlier:

Usage, Terms and Fees The National Land Survey’smaps and images are protected by law.

Publication of information from My Map is only allowed for individuals and non-profit associations. Users have the right to:

Make analog and digital prints of our maps/images free of charge. Publish our maps/images as illustration in analog form e.g. in reports, books or similar. Limitations:

Publish maps/images in digital form is allowed, but it requires that you add your own information on top and that that information is the primary. Publication in digital form is not allowed in any type of commercial context e.g. where published images are available against payment or on websites / e-services / apps financed by advertising, ads or the like.

Looks like OSM is an example of a non-profit organization.

2022년 9월 19일 07:59ChristianA님의 의견

Yes, OSM is a non-profit organization, but we do not simply publish the information on “my map”, we convert it into information that is shared using the ODBL-license, which in turn means that anyone, including for-profit companies, can use the data as they see fit.

To be sure, I recommend raising this question on the Swedish OSM maillist or the Swedish OSM Facebook group, so that others that are more experienced in these issues may help us.

2022년 9월 19일 08:08ghost_07님의 의견

Sounds good! I already asked people in Telegram OSM.se group. Now will include people on FB to this. Thanks

2022년 9월 20일 05:03ghost_07님의 의견

Hi NKA,

Let me clarify this. The reply from Lantmäteriet means that we are allowed to use their imagery as a custom source in our editor for mapping purposes, but in case we want to add them as a named layer to editors, we need to pay money to them. And that’s the reason why we now don’t have it there among other imagery sources.

Am I right?

Thanks, Dmitry

2022년 9월 20일 12:52NKA님의 의견

To clarify:

  • We are allowed to trace/to map based on what we see in the orthophotos from Lantmäteriet, for example on Min Karta. So the orthos are an acceptable source for OSM.

  • We do not have the permission to use the WMS service unless we pay for it. This is why the WMS has not been included in the predefined imageries for JOSM and iD.

  • Private use of the WMS in editors is perhaps a grey area, since we are permitted to view the content of the same WMS in Min Karta/in browsers, but I do not think this is something Lantmäteriet would endorse.

2022년 9월 20일 19:01leojth님의 의견

In my point of view, the problem here isn’t really Lantmäteriet, but the contributor terms of OpenStreeMap that clearly states that you, as a contributor, must ensure you have the right to license your uploaded data as ODbL. Personally, I can not assure that. Lantmäteriet has not given any such permission regarding the recent aerial photos. Historic Orthophotos, on the other hand, are released under CC0 and therefore ODbL compatible.

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