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123455005 about 3 years ago

It was a reaponse to your last statement. I mean you undo the changes and I will then fix the Farsi island that had been removed from Iran by a sockpupet account.
However, you can don't touch the Farsi island so I won't have to fix it again.

123455005 about 3 years ago

Yes, please change back to that state, I will fix the vandalism of that sockpupet account.

123455005 about 3 years ago

Hello LockOnGuy,

It's obvious that these islands belong to Iran and no need to argue.

For more information you can also read this document from OSM foundation:

http://www.osmfoundation.org/w/images/d/d8/DisputedTerritoriesInformation.pdf

Please change the borders to the initial state before your very first changes in the Persian Gulf (I think it was osm.org/changeset/120185536).

Thanks

122971575 about 3 years ago

Hello,
Why you removed node 4236952889?
Thanks

121515664 about 3 years ago

Okay, I will correct it.

The name:fa on OSM was "Najaf airport" and needs word "international" to be complete.

Please don't change things just based on Wikipedia. It's not reliable. We can get some clues from it, for example finding more sources but every moment someone may make something incorrect there, and that incorrect thing may remain there for months, maybe for years. Also WP has some rules that prevent people from adding info based on their observations, something that OSM respects.

An example for inaccuracy of WP is Turkish name of this airport on WP: "Necef Havalimanı". It doesn't have "international" word in its name.

Thanks

121515664 about 3 years ago

Hello LockOnGuy,

Why did you remove name:fa from way 707043682?

Thanks

123092784 about 3 years ago

Hello LockOnGuy,

Let me start from last and thank your kindness.

Well, one of my curiosities is about some of your edits. Some weeks ago I saw that you removed many places. Since you are local it's probably OK, but I would like to know how you really validate many places such as religious ones for bulk deletion, because it seems to me a tedious job to check every single feature and you may have an interesting way to do it.

Another interesting thing to me, is that people add many houses or some "مضيف"s to the map of Iraq. I guess part of it comes from the great hospitality of Iraqi people (for example during Arba'een this kindness of Iraqi people is really indescribable to provide people accommodation and more) but I also would like to know your opinion on this. Do you know how local people deal with their houses being mapped on OSM?

Back to the beginning, as you probably know, Iranians may travel to Iraq a few times during a year. Considering this, my sources are different: myself, Iranian or Iraqi people, and online sources with respect to avoiding grey areas of copyright :)

Regarding those residential areas, as you also pointed out, we are mapping the current situation in OpenStreetMap. Therefore, I map such areas as residential, and don't pay much attention to the actions that the government may do in the future. Of course adding the description=* is an option, or perhaps you can make a new tag for it if there are more of such issues, then you can record a more detailed description on the wiki.

Thanks

123004690 about 3 years ago

Hello LockOnGuy,

This is a hussainiya, and in fact it is a building whose main function is to hold ceremonies in religious occasions, and it may have other public uses as well.
The hussainiya can be located inside the area related to a mosque and be part of the mosque buildings and may be built independently of any mosque.

To confirm this specific one, please have a look at this video:

https://youtu.be/SxBgtMdluXM?t=423

You can find "مطعم نسيم دجلة", and after camera turns, a little further on, you see a red building, which you can also find in the "Esri World Imagery (Clarity) Beta" imagery, and then on the left, the columns of the hussainiya building can be seen.

This video is really great and if you watch from the first minutes, it confirms name and other data I added to the feature.

122865984 about 3 years ago

You're welcome, I found out I've missed two more benches there on the other side of the fountain :)

https://youtu.be/R_bZ7UhmKqI?t=198

122865984 about 3 years ago

Hello LockOnGuy,
yes those are some benches I saw in a video. There's a paved area around the fountain with 8 benches. I will provide link to video when I'm at the PC. It may take some hours to get back and find the video, sorry for that.

122872531 about 3 years ago

there are 2 more edits following this:
122873114
122872814

122763047 about 3 years ago

Hello LockOnGuy,
Okay, I'll use grocery for it. Thanks for your assistance.
In Iran سوپرمارکت is also a term that people mostly use for smaller shops. Even sometimes هایپرمارکت.
Larger shops usually have Farsi term فروشگاه in their name (however it's not always true to think about as a rule in naming).
As an example Refah is one of the oldest chain stores in Iran. Of course there are some others too. Add to them some factories or companies that have supermarkets or hypermarkets that primarily focus to give service to their employees with fewer branches limited to a city or town and not country-wide.
Thanks

122763047 about 3 years ago

Thanks for the info. If you confirm I'll change it to convenience shop.

Do people there use the word سوبرماركت just for large supermarkets that they usually need trolleys for shopping or it is common for small stores?

Source of the photo is this video:
https://youtu.be/cqQSSk3WQeY?t=409

122763047 about 3 years ago

Hello LockOnGuy,
It is based on a photo from that place for a week ago. It was closed in the photo and I wasn't sure about choosing convenience shop or supermarket shop.
https://i.postimg.cc/W4VRrQHS/aswaq.jpg

122240212 about 3 years ago

Okay, thanks

122240212 about 3 years ago

alt_name:fa can work too, as per your suggestion, but I thought when there isn't a name:fa, existence of alt_name:fa semantically is weird.

122240212 about 3 years ago

It's just for Iranians who go there or search for it. In Persian it is only known as "بین الحرمین".

Other names like
بین المشهدین
بین الحضرتین
etc
aren't common for Persian speakers. I can say that I never heard them from someone speaking Persian.

122240212 about 3 years ago

It seems we have no agreement on name tag. So I will only add the Persian name to loc_name:fa=*

Have a good time

122240212 about 3 years ago

Hi LockOnGuy,

In Persian "میان دو حرم" is the translation of "بين الحرمين".

In Persian if you say someone I was "میان دو حرم" you will be asked "کدام حرم‌ها?" i.e. "Which shrines?".

But if you say I was at "بین الحرمین" they will say you "زیارت قبول!" i.e. "May God accept your pilgrimage!". So بین" الحرمین" in Persian language is a known name for a place in Iraq.

In Arabic it could be a name as an Iraqi user added it and we talked about it on changeset osm.org/changeset/120182604

In English "Bayn al-Haramayn" is a name as you also see a Wikipedia article with that title.

You are translating "Bayn al-Haramayn" to "Between the two shrines" and then saying it isn't a name. "Between the two shrines" isn't a name, I agree, but "Bayn al-Haramayn" is a name for a place in Iraq.

If we go into details of each name, we find its meaning. Then we understand that name is describing something, then should we remove it?
When people use a word or some words to call something then we say it is the name of that thing.

Thanks for reading.

122241419 about 3 years ago

I didn't carefully read the cemetery=grave page, it is saying:
In areas where grave location/inscription is considered private information[1], please map only significant and notable graves.

So actually if that grave is private, then your removal could be correct.