is it really your intent to call 25 of the 55 African countries “oh so very hip”.

Yes, thanks for making it clear to everyone else, that was exactly my intent. (/s, just in case) There’s no point in writing/speaking to one who doesn’t wish to read/listen. If you can’t even imagine that there’s, like, a ton of things to worry about when organizing an event, I don’t know what else to tell you. If the SotMWG didn’t choose the Philipines, maybe it’s because the application wasn’t as good otherwise.

Honestly, it’s always sad to me to see someone leave OSM. I can just not agree that the OSMF/SotMWG/whatever are “demonstrating that the organization has no commitment to diversity and inclusion.” I can’t argue otherwise anyway, because both sides are right, but remember that there’s more beyond the “west.”

As stated many times in many places there are 25 countries in Africa where it is legal to be gay and trans, which they could have picked, for instance the entire western coast south of and including Equatorial Guinea.

There may exist several countries in Africa where it isn’t illegal to be LGBT. However, you’re missing an important detail on how the SotM WG chooses the venue, which is: local groups applying to host it. The SotM didn’t pick Nairobi and then got a group of randos to organize it.

Search for the relevant threads in the forum to learn more.

Yes, it sucks that some people are excluded from the event. But I never see these people worry about the tons of other people who are excluded (for various reasons, even if they’re pro-LGBT) simple because the SotM is held in some oh-so-very-hip place.

What’s Ruby local/official/test?

大したものですね、どうも！

@MxxCon I think you’re missing a couple of points.

The (possible) problem is not, using non-open communication channels. It is, not having the relevant information (whatever it might be, e.g. financials in this whole drama) in open communication channels.

If said information is available on GitHub (as you said), which is open for viewing even without an account, then I’d say that’s fine (unfortunate, IMO, a better option would be e.g. the Wiki, but fine nonetheless!).

If said information is only available in a Slack/Discord/whatever group (which I believe is not open for viewing without an account), then that is a problem due to the “Commitment to Open Communication Channels”

BTW note that the “Commitment to Open Communication Channels” applies only to OSMF communication channels, but not to local communities that manage/administer their own communication means (not sure about “local chapters” though?).

@MxxCon

Anybody is free to create an account there. There’s no requirement that OSM must make broadcast announcements in your local free newspaper for you to see about it.

Being free is different from being open. And in case you’re not aware, take a look at https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Commitment_to_Open_Communication_Channels

First of all, I’m sorry to hear a contributor as active as you has decided to leave. It is always a shame and a big loss. OSM has come this far because we’re many. There is a saying in Portuguese: “grão a grão enche a galinha o papo” (lit. “grain by grain fills the chicken its belly”).

As others have also already said, the AWS spenditure picture thread is quite different from what’s painted in this diary. I haven’t followed up on the other points because my time is limited and I’d rather spend it on getting shit done.

there are core principles I stand by that deeply inform my perspective.

Core principles may be informed by facts, observations, etc. But core principles cannot inform perspectives, only influence.

One of my core beliefs is the importance of creating and utilizing software that respects its users. I have a profound aversion to the practices of many big-tech companies. In my eyes, they commodify human beings and often operate in ways I find ethically objectionable.

I share with you this principle/belief. I thank you for striving and putting in effort for a better world in this front, such as by contributing to OSM and FLOSS, and I hope you continue to do so for many years to come!

However, at the heart of an open project (such as OSM), we must put emphasis on us, the humans, and our interactions. If not for codified norms (CoC, ethical, law, cultural/social norms, …), at least for the prosperity of the said open projects. Because humans are not a commodity, as you so said, and without the human contributors the said open projects would not exist. So try to give your fellow humans reasons to continue in the project. If, no matter why, you can’t give reasons to continue, try at least not to give them reasons to leave.

Unfortunately, from several of your posts I saw more reasons not to engage with you than reasons to engage with you, and I can only imagine others felt the same. I just hope none of the core pillars of this project (such as @Firefishy of the OWG) have felt it in them reason to leave.

I also recommend Organic Maps and OsmAnd – the latter for its complexity, the former for its simplicity.

Edits made with Organic Maps while offline will be uploaded once you go online.

@2hu4u I see. I was only commenting on your appeal to cooperate because for that the wiki would very much be a better place (better discoverability, anyone can contribute, and no need to go through Google).