Hiya, just commenting because you requested a review; this is all correct provided the roads are after a 40 area sign, and don't have an end 40 area sign. (unrelated to OSM, is this the new 40 zone they talked about or is it an existing one?).

Cheers,
ortho_is_hot

Hi, the street address has been fixed; it was not edited by this user.

Hi aaronsta,

Thanks for confirming that this is the case; since I'm not from WA I have no practical way of determining this. If the routes are properly dead in the water then I would suggest bringing this up in the mailing list as I think that such a large change should be discussed with other mappers (a few WA members & bike riders have left their thoughts).

Cheers,
ortho_is_hot (Luke)

Hi,

In regards to the routes:

"largely they are fragmented, and consist of riding on roads without any dedicated infrastructure" - this is representative of routes across Australia; many routes in Sydney are like this and area just sharrows, however as they are still signposted they are mapped as routes.

"the signage has not been maintained, and maintenance is the responsibility of the respective local government authority ... signage has been maintained ad-hoc" - this may be the case however councils likely maintain a list/map of routes (at least thats how it works in NSW). Signage is also not always maintained properly in my experience.

"if you live in Perth, I seriously doubt you would have ever used these routes for navigation, nor would you have ever purposefully ridden by the route, instead of taking a more direct or safer route option as to on road cycling." - they are still routes nonetheless, often times I find myself following or deviating from a route at will however that does not change the fact that they are routes and infrastructure is generally designed to cater for these routes.

"The routes are circuitous" - see above

"The OSM information has not been maintained to reflect changes, and the OSM application of the routes were not consistent" - in this case then routes should be reviewed and updated where necessary, but I do not think that outright deletion is warranted

These map edits and wiki changes have attracted some attention on the mailing list; it would be appreciated if you engage with that list as well (https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2022-February/015748.html)

Thanks,
otho_is_hot (Luke)

Also the roads here osm.org/way/757861362 are probably better off as service or unclassified imo

Apologies for the worldwide changeset - I mistakenly edited a similar sounding location on the other side of the world (have corrected this)

Ah nice catch, thank you, I will re-do the relation so it fits better

This changeset has been reverted in osm.org/changeset/113567200

That's interesting, wonder why that's the case; in any case thanks for updating the tags

Hi, just wondering if there is a specific router which these ways were not working with without the bicycle tagging? Just thinking that bicycle=dismount would be more appropriate as =yes implies that you are allowed to ride (which with pedestrian signals only you aren't)

No worries, generally the tagging schemes are universal... I'm (was) working on a one-stop wiki page for cycle and related stuff, might have to work on it again

Hi there,

On-road cycle lanes that aren't physically separated (osm.org/way/993850583) shouldn't be mapped as separate ways but can be specified on the roadway with cycleway:lane=* and any ramps from the shared path/pavement can be connected directly to the road.

Cheers,
ortho_is_hot

Hi, just commenting because you ticked review, good change for this road.

Cheers,
ortho_is_hot

A note that Google Street View can't be used for OpenStreetMap edits

Hi, I've restored the deleted roads in osm.org/changeset/112145366

Cheers,
ortho_is_hot

Hi, just commenting because you've left a request -

Changeset is all fine however adding suburb names (at least in Australia) is a bit unnecessary as the suburb boundaries exist as relations, so the suburb, postcode, state, and country can be derived from the boundaries e.g. here is the relation for Woollahra: osm.org/relation/5718966 . Although as I said there's nothing incorrect about it so all good

Cheers,
ortho_is_hot

No worries with the requests, submit as many as you need. Perhaps I should've looked closer and seen that they're down the centre, in which case they're fine to leave on the roadway as they are.

Cheers,
ortho_is_hot

Hi there just_another_mapper,

When mapping trees, the nodes should be at the base of the tree, rather than on the roadway. This can be a bit difficult with the particularly large trees we have in the east, however either on-the-ground knowledge or an educated guess should be enough to position each tree.

In regards to some of the other changesets you've requested a review on, the appear to be all good from what I can tell. If you have any questions then do reach out.

Cheers,
ortho_is_hot

Hi there,

It seems that there is now a duplicate overlapping Howe Field Road between the intersection of Scarer's Lane and the bridge over the waterway. Would you be able to fix this up?

Cheers,
ortho_is_hot

Your edits have been reverted osm.org/changeset/108832780