@Tomas did you see this? osm.wiki/Proposed_features/Water_details Overwhelming majority for this way of tagging then it seems. Unfortunately landuse=reservoir have not been deprecated which is confusing I think.

Oh, I was not aware of that. What about lagoons and bays? How do we tag that using the old scheme?

I’m not convinced that the old scheme was better as it seems like a bad idea to use a main tag like natural=water to only mean lake.

I will discuss this on the tagging mailing list before proceeding with more edits. I lean towards deprecating landuse=reservoir in favour of water=reservoir and adding water= to all elements tagged natural=water.

@Thomas Hi, as I see it adding a tag specifying which function a body of water has cannot be a lowering of quality, quite the opposite actually. I started this quest because I wanted to answer the question: how many naturally formed lakes (bodies of water surrounded by land) are there in Sweden? This question is hard to answer if any kind of water is tagged natural=water only. Could you link to resources backing up your claim?

I also recommend taking a look at the filters and filter out what you dont want to get in the way (snapping). E.g. when mapping landuse hide the roads and vice versa.

@jorchr Jag testade hur långt jag skulle komma på en halvtimme manuellt och det räckte tyvärr inte långt :( Jag gav upp och skapade därefter osm.org/user/pangoSE/diary/391129

@ Tack för svar. Jag delar gärna upp den. Vi skulle behöva ett josm plugin till detta.

@jorchr osm.org/relation/1560792 är i mina ögon inte ett lyckad exempel på skogsMP eftersom att den innehar mera än 50 medlemmar och är mycket stor. Det är för övrigt flera sjöar som inte är markerad som inners än, tex Hundasjön.

När jag tittar på dina senaste ändringar ser jag också att du inte lämnar kommentarer. Skulle du vilja börja med det eller är det för bökigt i P2?

Jag reagerar också på att P2 inte berättar vilket bakgrundslager som du använt för dina ganska omfattande ändringar tex här: osm.org/changeset/76265237#map=10/57.9214/15.4633

Jag ser också att P2 inte har uppdaterats sen över ett år https://github.com/openstreetmap/potlatch2

Alt i alt så kan jag i dagsläget inte rekommendera P2. -> kör iD för enklare, snabba småfix, eller gröna nybörjare som inte lärt sig tagsnamn än och JOSM för resten.

@SomeoneElse Thanks for the heads up. I wrote it a little fast and actually have never tried P2 myself. What I have seen is others map with it and afterwards leave broken MPs. I just saw this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7lfCKJpdCA and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJlqlchv4vU Does it validate MPs? @jorchr Tack för informationen, kul at P2 funkar för dig. Götaland ser bra ut på OSMI, bra jobbat!

No, for reasons stated above.

Could you add a way to disable the dialogs for power users? It would speed up the entry greatly and make it possible to enter the choice using Vimium only.

I tried it and it worked great 😃

Hi nvk. Instead of downloading via the overpass turbo website I suggest you download directly from the (by default hidden) overpass turbo tab in JOSM.

See https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Action/Download for details (you have to enable “expert mode” to succeed.)

Thanks for the clarification and for taking the time to review Tom!

Thanks for sharing and working on this!

Hi @woodpeck Thanks for the heads up. I removed that one. In a year or two when the satellites have passed again/we get new imagery we can revisit these. The best would of course be an on ground survey but that seems kinda unlikely/hard/dangerous for an outsider to perform. If anyone reading this is living in Xinjiang and is willing to take the risk, be my guest to verify these. I would really like to have an independent UN commission or something working with this to document the extent of the problem on ground and verify that it really is slave work camps.

For those who want to help, in some of the camps there are buildings which is not drawn yet. Find the camps via the overpass query above.

I think we should support as many ways of writing coordinates as possible. E.g. N:39°47’03″ E:78°33’41″ or 39°47’03″ 78°33’41″.

I have drawn a couple of the largest now on the map. See https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/GmT

The architecture of them reminds me of Foucaults analysis of prisons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discipline_and_Punish

Hi MojtabaAbdelhalim I sent you a PM. :)

Thank you very much for the detailed explanations.

I wonder if there are any plans to share some of the improvements to iD back to the iD project? (this is not required by the license, but it would be nice to add a validator to iD and yours seems like a good start).