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70442555 about 6 years ago

Please read and answer comment about your editions.
This is good practice in OSM.

Also:
osm.wiki/Good_practice#Keep_the_history

osm.wiki/How_We_Map

Also the comment at:
osm.org/changeset/70528771

71264341 about 6 years ago

Please read and answer comment about your editions.
This is good practice in OSM.

Also:
osm.wiki/Good_practice#Keep_the_history

osm.wiki/How_We_Map

Also the comment at:
osm.org/changeset/70528771

70528771 about 6 years ago

Have you read what was indicated there?
At osm.org/changeset/70442555

Let's do the right way:
I posed a question, so that is what deserves an answer.

See:
Q.1)
-There was ~40Km of river mapped by others before;
-All those 40km were deleted by user/edathy in
https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=70442555;
-The geometry you said was only ~3km (osm.org/way/691231860);
-Where are the other extension?
-Why was 90% deleted, and not substitued?

Now another account doing the same deletion, lefting more than 70% empty:
https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=71264341

This is not an improvement.
You left just empty, the longest part of what was before.


Q.2)
-Why both editors don't answer what was asked?
-Is this a 3rd account?
-Have you read what was indicated there?

If so, you would've known:

osm.wiki/Good_practice#Keep_the_history

Keep the history means:
In OSM we do not just delete what was mapped by others before, if that's not plainly wrong.
If we think it's worth to improve, we rather preserve the history of objects:

Just by selecting the new geometry,
together with the old one,
and "replace geometry" (CTRL+G).

That's is respect for the work of previous editors.

Anyway, not leaving empty what was mapped before.
If you want to improve, improve the whole geometry.

Do you understand?

70528771 about 6 years ago

Obrigado, respondi lá.

Parece que tem 2 contas fazendo a mesma coisa, e não respondendo:
osm.org/changeset/70442555

osm.org/changeset/71264341

71264341 about 6 years ago

Why did you delete this river:
osm.org/way/384245084/history

Exactly the same deleted few days ago, here:
osm.org/changeset/70442555
Have you read those comments?

Are you using sock puppet account?

So?

70442555 about 6 years ago

Have you've seen you deleted the biggest part of the river?
In OSM we don't just delete, we'd rather correct, so to preserve history.
You should not just search by "landsat" old sources and delete the feature (BTW in the history of that you can see it was registered further improved with source:image=Bing 2015-12-02). See objects history before.
There are 2 ways to correct preserving history in JOSM: "improve way" (shortcut: W); or draw a new way, select with the old, and do "replace" with Ctrl+Shift+G, so you preserve its history.

See also:
osm.wiki/How_We_Map
osm.wiki/Category:OSM_best_practice

35737956 about 6 years ago

Obrigado, já examinei, reverti e vou deixar recado. Valeu!

70148379 about 6 years ago

Good. Also nice if you can add its "website=*"

69868934 about 6 years ago

Hi,
https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=69868934
it seems those were true parks:
osm.org/way/162893161/history - the churchs park
osm.org/way/485045164/history - it may be a soccer pitch; so just change tags or revert to previous; anyway should not delete the previous geometry.
You should not remotely delete before asking previous editors about your doubts:
osm.wiki/How_We_Map

Please, could you verify or undelete it?

Ok? Tks.

48705035 over 6 years ago

Oi Muralito, não sei de qual trecho falas. Não me lembro. Mas em geral quando eu colocava isto deve ter sido apenas para lembrar de melhorar traçado com imagem

69258643 over 6 years ago

Thank you for your work. I've mapped a lot eastern Nigeria too. You're right, tracks defined as ways leading from houses to farm/field,
not for ways connecting other settlements.
But between settlements, there should be at least one routable way for motor vehicles (at least 4WD). Many times they cross the farmlands.
From A) Gudumbali
osm.org/node/501526463
to B) Karna Gabchari
osm.org/node/5511453207
I can see there are at least two more named settlements:
Aisaka A
osm.org/node/5511452779
Jabbari
osm.org/node/5511455888
and another one, unnamed, but with many houses, there:
osm.org/node/5511453297
So 5 rural/farm settlements in the way, but still settlements.

Also, extending from there, I would consider it as a somehow continuous way (almos all dry ground can be a road) since it leads to
Dumba'A
osm.org/node/3646370674
perhaps through this larger unnamed settlement (would need to examine a bit more to confirm)
osm.org/way/227799648
and from there to the border with Niger,
osm.org/way/682805966
and here there are marks of wheels of motor vehicles
osm.org/way/451352357
indicating that it's a more important way than just for some cow cart.
So the lager context is also important to examine.
It seems to me it's a significative way, that could be "unclassified".
I agree, seems around there there's a bit too much of others as "unclassified", that could be just tracks.
Thank you, good job.

69258643 over 6 years ago

Hi, please keep in mind that Africa has a particular stablished classification coherent to its road structure. At osm.wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa

67029092 over 6 years ago

And please, start really mapping and don't delete or change just by armchair mapping things other much probably know better than you. See, you have "too" much deletions for a begginer, 83% nodes: http://hdyc.neis-one.org/?Ryzen. That's not a good beggining.

66803476 over 6 years ago

Could you please at least haven't deleted the info about the company that constructed previously that place, from wich the place historicaly got its name? We are working hard in this disaster, and to keep related information. Have you anything else to do in your country, besides deleting information on others? Could that info you deleted have been preserved by you in another tag, like description=* or note=*? Shure it could, easily if desired.

66032278 over 6 years ago

Não dá pra tratar todas as implicações e sugestões só por aqui no espaço de comentário.

66032278 over 6 years ago

Por favor, como falado antes, entre em contato no canal da comunidade:
osm.wiki/WikiProject_Brazil
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Email: talk-br@openstreetmap.org

Possivelmente há maneiras de corrigir sem simplesmente deletar tudo.
Precisamos analisar e conversar sobre as alternativas com calma.

66009285 over 6 years ago

OK. Mas antes de qualquer coisa, veja com a comunidade no talk list, precisamos ver com calma a melhor maneira https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
email: talk-br@openstreetmap.org

66009285 over 6 years ago

Ok, veja com a comunidade, até para encontrar melhor solução de como aproveitar melhor o que já foi, e como corrigir.

66006238 over 6 years ago

One error in the wiki made by someones, does not authorises another error in removing tags made by others who have nothing to do with the previous error.
What to do:
It's stated: *Do not engage in large-scale "cleanups" without securing the agreement of the relevant community*
While not secured the agreement or a broad and agreed solution, just don't change it . You're making loosing much other infos that could be more well thinked on how to preserve.

66027325 over 6 years ago

É preciso que você suspenda estas importações de matas e revise com a comunidade OSM brasileira. Também para evitar estas deleções. Toda importação precisa ser apresentada e combinada antes de fazer upload. Por favor entre em contato:
osm.wiki/WikiProject_Brazil
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Email: talk-br@openstreetmap.org