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107822357 about 4 years ago

Hello, and thanks for all of the edits! One thing that would make your contributions every more useful is a specific changeset comment. For example, this changeset, like many of your recent changesets, has the comment "Colorado State University paths, updates, landuse", while not technically incorrect, specifically what was changed was maxspeed of a number of roads. Also, citing your source would also be helpful. Did these changes come from first hand observation (aka "survey") or some other source? Your changeset says you used "Bing Imagery", but of course it is not possible to get maxspeed from imagery alone.
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107668651 about 4 years ago

We had an effort last fall to map in order to support the fire fighting efforts, mainly buildings and driveways. This was requested specifically by one of the firefighters who is involved OSM, rsavoye. He is a normally a volunteer fire fighter in rural boulder county, but was deployed here for the Cameron Peak Fire. Incidently, their whole department uses OSM and OSMAND (phone/tablet navigation app based on OSM).

Anyway, the effort brought in a lot of inexperienced and new mappers. I don't recall if I ever saw a case where someone deleted a newer building to replace with an old one, but I did see lots of cases where old buildings were mapped - even though I told people to check multiple sources of imagery.

Hope you are able to make it up to the area this weekend. If you are planning on hiking, most of the trails in OSM should be in good shape. Many have been aligned to the Strava Global Heatmap. Still some bridges, fords, and trail signs to add, along with more tagging detail.

I did just notice that CR 43 in the area needs to be realigned as it was rerouted sometime after the flood. So much to map, so little time...

107668651 about 4 years ago

Sorry for not contacting you first (or at least earlier). Normally I would agree with you, no reason to have buildings that are long gone. Unfortunately some of the imagery sources available in OSM still show these buildings (Esri World Premium Imagery (Clarity) Beta still shows the building in question). While local experienced OSM mappers like you and I know about the fires and floods this area has experienced over the last decade or so and would check multiple sources in attempt to determine what is actually on the ground (and/or we have actually visited the area many times), my concerned is that newer folks from outside the area would just look at one source, and add the buildings back in - or worse yet, delete your and my good work and replace it with outdated data. Hopefully all imagery sources will eventually be updated so as to not show these old buildings, and then these removed:building=* features can be removed. It is a weakness of these imagery sources, with the exception of Bing, they do not show the collection date. Even Bing normally shows a very large range for the collection date.

107653305 about 4 years ago

re recreation_ground - just because it is possible that someone might recreate on a piece of ground doesn't mean it is a landuse=recreation_ground, if it did, then almost any piece of ground that didn't have some structure on it would be a landuse=recreation_ground.

Specifically, osm.org/way/961232000 is actually a catch basin for storm water, not very ideal for recreation, and certainly no outdoor seating.

107659101 about 4 years ago

Thanks for your interest in OpenStreetMap.

In OSM we map what is actually on the ground, and this trail actually does exist. Further, the last time I was in the area, there was no signs stating that the public was not allowed to use it. If there were we would tag it as access=no, but still not remove it.
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107653305 about 4 years ago

https://josm.openstreetmap.de/

Full featured, thick client (doesn't run in a browser) editor for Windows, Mac, Linux. Requires Java. Very powerful, but like I said, a bit of a learning curve.

107653305 about 4 years ago

No problem, I appreciate your willingness to learn and contribute!

Regarding the square corners - with the iD editor you have to zoom in really close (e.g. such that a typical house takes up an entire PC screen), and then draw the building very precisely with nearly square corners, and then use the square function. It is not ideal. If the iD editor's square function fails (because the building wasn't close enough to being square already), it does so silently. In my opinion the JOSM editor does a much better job with squaring and buildings in general. It does have a bit of a learning curve however.

More later on the recreation areas.

107653305 about 4 years ago

Hello again PikaPutter1235, and thanks for your continued contributions to OSM!

I am not sure what is going on here, but the buildings you are entering still do not have right angled (square, 90 degree) corners.

Also, the areas you have tagged as recreation grounds do not seem to be recreation grounds, but simply grassy areas.
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107642849 about 4 years ago

Nice! Glad to see another user adjusting trails to the Strava Global Heatmap! When doing this I have been adding a tag source:geometry=Strava Global Heatmap, as well as a note=* tag in the hope that in the future other users will not align the trail to their own individual GPX files.
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107486031 about 4 years ago

Hi daggerw,
Thanks for your response and all of your edits! Citing a specific source will make it easier to validate edits, so that will be much appreciated!
tekim

107486031 about 4 years ago

This edit looks valid (I happen to live in the area and have driven by many times), but it would be helpful if you could cite the specific source(s) you used to make this change.
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103960238 about 4 years ago

Hello, and thanks for your interest in OpenStreetMap. It is not clear from your changeset comment and the sources you cited (Bing imagery and OpenStreetMap itself), how you came to the conclusion as to the classification of these roads. Note, I don't necessarily agree or disagree with your changes, I am just suggesting that you provide some reasoning and sources when making such changes.

107399365 about 4 years ago

Thanks for your reply. It is understandable that as someone new to OSM you would make mistakes. As long as you willing to learn, which it seems you are, it is all good. It is a huge project that is constantly evolving. After over 10 years with the project I am continuing to learn.

Let me know if you have any questions.

107399365 about 4 years ago

highway=cycleway is not for bike lanes, it is only for where there is a separate way for bicycles per osm.wiki/Tag:highway%3Dcycleway
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107401089 about 4 years ago

Hi again,

Another little thing,
landuse=meadow is used for agricultural grazing lands, per osm.wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dmeadow I doubt these areas are used for grazing. Perhaps landuse=grass would be better?
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107401089 about 4 years ago

Hi, welcome to OpenStreetMap and thanks for all of the edits!

In OSM buildings are drawn with square (90 degree) corners (if in reality they have square corners). In the iD editor, if you draw the building with corners close to 90 degrees, you can right click, and then click the square to "square" the corners.
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107209476 about 4 years ago

Hi BubbaJuice,
Thanks for your considerate reply. How exciting to be on a road trip like you are! Thanks for making the effort to make edits to OSM along the way. It is very unfortunate that StreetComplete doesn't allow you to close and upload a changeset when you are done editing in a certain area. Some tools for finding changesets work off of the changeset bounding box, so a geographically large changeset makes it look like changes were made in areas where that is not the case. I will try to raise this issue with the developers.

Again, thanks for the edits, and safe travels!

107209476 about 4 years ago

Hi BubbaJuice,
Thanks for all of the edits.

It would be really helpful if you could constrain the geographic extent of each changeset to a smaller area, such as several neighbourhoods.

What is the source of your changes? Given the wide geographic dispersion of your edits, it is unlikely that you surveyed these all in person. Some of the changes you made, such as tactile_paving, cannot be made from satellite imagery.
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107109325 about 4 years ago

Welcome to OpenStreetMap, and thanks for the edits!

It would be very helpful if you could restrict each changeset to a narrow geographic area if possible. For example a given neighbourhood or city.

Also, you should cite a source for your edits.

107105458 about 4 years ago

Good catch! Thanks for the edit!
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