No source data aside from treating the CDTCoalition as the official trustee for the official CD Scenic Trail US version and the corresponding Canadian organization the Canadian version. Those relations belong to the NWN national walking network level of relations.

I’m not aware of an international body overseeing the combined two (at this time) national trails so as to create a top level relation which could then belong to an international walking network IWN.

Individual states and provinces go in the RWN regional walking network. At the bottom is the LWN local walking network. Those are roughly a days walk.

My theory was to make editing easier by dividing it into small workable chunks. Perhaps I just made it harder :).

Notice each state/province has their own letter of the alphabet. Thats to create a North to south order when lists of the routes are created.

I assumed that someday the trail would go from Alaska to Tierra del Fuego so A to Z designations.

Don’t worry. Do what works for you. Someone else may or may not change it for something better.

See WayMarkedTrails.org if you haven’t already. Dividing up the trail allows for downloading short sections to GPS devices. Way back when some GPS devices could only manage so many points at once.

Good luck.

Wegerje

Yes the guess above from history is correct. Just two small segments of two nodes each are supposed to be fords. The rest of the trail is just trail.

This informal social trail is partially maintained by wegerje . When not maintained it becomes lost at points by vegetation. Wegerje uses rough phone gps to locate the trail as exactly as possible.

OK. Changed it to 10. Thanks a bunch! :)

Yeah. It was an idea I got from the wiki for a "HOA" "Home Owners Association"

Regrettably the standard OSM rendering ignores it. sigh.

osm.wiki/Homeowners%27_association

JOSM - Imagery / USGS 3D Elevation Program

Some places have better detail than others. SW Michigan has had it for years. Just now saw that central Wisconsin has the better detail version. JOSM has more features than I know how to use. :)

These footways are on private property. In order to verify them they must be discovered on the ground via the map. They are likely either old farm access tracks or temporary timber tracks. They show up on the 3DEP lidar imagery. They are informal=yes because no one is currently maintaining them. I know because I am an owner representative for Karma Farm Inc.

Thank you for checking.

Thanks

Interesting. I haven't ever done a single node natural=wood. I will try that. (I see I get a warning. Still I want to see what it looks like.)

I do sometimes use a single node natural=tree. Some renderers only show those at the closer zoom levels. I am sensitive to not mapping for renderers.

Hi,

I'm always looking for ways to improve my mapping.

Would you please link to the OSMwiki or other documentation you base that on. Thanks.

The OpenStreetMap CDT was an "unfinished" trail for several years and finally I decided to complete it. Soon around then I found that the CDTC trail coalition had complete sets of gps-able declarations. So I used their line. But no one to my knowledge maintains the OSM version. It likely differs in a number of places as the Forest Service et al finishes ad changes it constantly.

I broke it into many sub-re;lations in theory to make it easy to change. Also easy to download just a part for hiking. I then combined it with the Canadian Great Divide Trail and called it Divide Trails or some such so it would show up as a red "international" route. I did the same for the PCT as there was a tiny trail at the end of it in Canada that when combined with the US part created an "international" trail. It's only OSMs European bias that keeps the Appalachian Trail in blue "national" status, IMHO.

Whatever. It was fun seeing your comment appear in my mailbox.

So educate me please. Point me to the rule book :) etc.

Is there an "official body" in charge of naming River to River sections? Or are you referring to the specific segment names like "guess".

I imagine that there are many stakeholders that depend upon OSM. Hikers themselves should be one of them I would think. But sure if hikers are using apps then app makers needs and desires would come ahead of hikers themselves and their direct interaction with OSM. Something like that.

I use WaymarkedTrails ( https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#route?id=4645742 ) to view the results of my work. The number in the segment keeps them logically sequential in the list that Waymarked trails generates. In that sense the segment numbers are useful. (That is what you mean by "section" numbers, yes?)

For the Continental Divide Trail (CDT) I felt the section (segment) numbers were also important to present the sections in top down alphabetic order to match the geographic North-South order of the trail.

But yes in both cases it is my own private ordering not based on anything else in the world.

For the River to River trail I went East to West since it seems most people hike it in that direction.

And Thank you.

Hi HubMiner. Three years ago I was even more unsophisticated than I am now. Since I am essentially self taught as concerns Open Street Map I know very little of the social conventions that help make it work.

At that time I figured "guess" in the name would serve to authorize anyone with more knowledge to act.

I have used "fixme" a little these days but not with any full sense of understanding.

So yes move "guess" to "fixme".
And No I am not active on the River to River Trail relations and do not expect to return to it.

Thank you for educating me.

Jan,
Thanks. For the moment I have simply removed the tags (X_bear_creek and x_ley). Your idea of using ref:xxx sounds like it will work for me. In the meantime I am leaving the information out and may come back to it later.
Thanks again.
Jeff

Thank you so much for reaching out to me. I'm an essentially a self-taught rookie and was looking to speak to a mapper I know on Thursday and tags was to be among the topics I would ask about.

CDT is Continental Divide Trail. Hikers who traverse the trail often use one or both of two major paper map resources: Jonathan Ley and Bear Creek Survey mapsets. Both mapsets that are carried by hikers are organized by state. NM, New Mexico in this case. So as I create relations I include at least a roughly accurate reference to the specific maps where this relation would be located. So the numbers.

A website called Waymarked Trails displays the tags when you select a trail or segment of a trail. I like that the name of the trail is the first tag, but that is an alphabetical accident. So to put these tag's information at the end of the list I started them with x_.

One of my questions I was going to put to my mapper friend was what it might take to change the tag name and was there any automated process that would not lose the data.

Thanks again for your input and I welcome any advice you may to provide.

Jeff