Hallo bison166, ich hatte, als ich Deinen schroffen Einzeiler hier kritisierte, nicht gesehen, dass Du tyiori vorher bereits eine wesentlich freundlichere Nachricht geschickt hattest. Hätte ich das gesehen, wäre meine Nachricht an Dich auch freundlicher gewesen - ich möchte mich für die strenge Zurechtweisung entschuldigen. Inhaltlich bleibe ich aber trotzdem der Ansicht, dass auf Gebieten, wo die Community uneins ist, niemand versuchen sollte, einen neuen Mapper auf eine Seite zu ziehen.

Hallo johndoe, in osm.org/changeset/63474028 hatte ich nach der Quelle zu einem ref:bvg gefragt, und Du hast mich gebeten, genauer zu recherchieren, Du habest das ja nur von einer existierenden Relation übertragen, und ich solle keine Hexenjaged betreiben und so weiter. Nun hast Du in diesem Edit der Haltestelle Proskauer Straße (osm.org/node/3724869250) ein ref:vbb verpasst, und ich kann trotz aller Recherche nicht erkennen, wo das herkommt. Eine Quelle hast Du auch nicht angegeben. Oder habe ich wieder etwas übersehen?

Hallo Silverman2311, hast Du eine Antwort auf diesen Kommentar?

Hallo bison166, bitte sieh in Zukunft davon ab, Benutzer zurechtzuweisen, die für Landuse-Flächen die Nodes von Straßen und Wegen mitbenutzen. Diese Diskussion wird in OSM immer wieder geführt, und beide Methoden sind zulässig; wir wollen diese Diskussion jetzt nicht auf dem Rücken von Newbies in Changeset-Diskussionen vervielfachen.

Hallo OF0, hallo flohoff, bitte seht davon ab, an solchen Changeset-Diskussionen teilzunehmen. Wenn ihr den Eindruck habt, dass ein Dritter seine "Zusammenklebe-Ideologie" in Changeset-Diskussionen verbreitet so wie hier der User "bison166", dann meldet das an die DWG und wir fordern die Leute auf, das bleiben zu lassen. Ich werde künftig weitere ideologische Diskussionbeiträge dieser Art mit Benutzersperren ahnden, denn sie sind überhaupt nicht hilfreich.

Dear hoi113,

please refrain from changing the "name" tag of Dokdo/Takeshima islands. OpenStreetMap maps actual control, not territorial claims; these islands are actually controlled by South Korea so the name tag is Korean. The Japanese names can be added in name:ja - and if you want you can set up a server that renders only Japanese names.

Thank you for your understanding.

Frederik Ramm / OSMF Data Working Group

osm.org/way/569053713 did you set layer=-33 on purpose or is it a typo?

I forgot to mention that if someone *did* want to properly map the Bay of Bothina and the Bothnian Bay and Luodonselkä, these would be three partly overlapping natural=bay objects which would likely cause editor warnings and mis-countings ("hey, OSM has so-and-so many square kilometres of bays mapped"). But as I said, it's undesirable to have each piece of coastline be part of 20 relations anyway.

I should have been more precise; it is a random subset of reality. The gulf is part of the baltic sea which is not mapped as a named polygon. The gulf consists of smaller named water bodies, namely the "Bothnian Bay" in the North, and the "Bothnian Sea" in the South. These are not mapped as polygons either, and these themselves partly consist of smaller named water bodies like Luodonselkä in the North-East. My point is that the "Gulf of Bothnia" polygon has been arbitrarily been introduced for rendering purposes at a specific zoom range, to have a nice name showing on the map.If you step into the water on the Eastern shore of Hailuoto island, you are stepping
into the waters of Luodonselkä. And into the waters of Bothnian Bay. And into the
Gulf of Bothnia. And into the Baltic Sea. Things will be similar elsewhere. Selecting one of them to create a polygon for is arbitrary and not an accurate representation of reality. I think that it is desirable to record the names and
approximate locations of these water bodies, but we *must* find a better solution
for it than to create massive polygons with thousands of coastline member ways for
each of them. These massive polygons make editing the coastline harder, they are liable to break
at any time, they often suggest a precision that does not exist in reality,
and they're also a burden on data processors down the line.

Hallo, in osm.org/user_blocks/2288 hatte ich Dich darauf aufmerksam gemacht, dass wir bei OSM sehr auf unsere Quellen achten müssen. In diesem Changeset hier hast Du wieder einigen Haltestellen ein "ref:VBB" hinzugefügt (z.B. osm.org/node/651927536/history). Ist die Quelle dafür eine Ortsbegehung? In dem Fall füge doch Deinem Changeset ein "source=survey" hinzu.

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changesets 63360720, 63359357, 63361699 where the changeset comment is: revert buggy automatic edit to traffic sign directions by yopaseopor - contrary to what is claimed, there is no consensus on the tagging list about this

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changesets 63360720, 63359357, 63361699 where the changeset comment is: revert buggy automatic edit to traffic sign directions by yopaseopor - contrary to what is claimed, there is no consensus on the tagging list about this

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changesets 63360720, 63359357, 63361699 where the changeset comment is: revert buggy automatic edit to traffic sign directions by yopaseopor - contrary to what is claimed, there is no consensus on the tagging list about this

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changesets 63360720, 63359357, 63361699 where the changeset comment is: revert buggy automatic edit to traffic sign directions by yopaseopor - contrary to what is claimed, there is no consensus on the tagging list about this

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changesets 63360720, 63359357, 63361699 where the changeset comment is: revert buggy automatic edit to traffic sign directions by yopaseopor - contrary to what is claimed, there is no consensus on the tagging list about this

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changesets 63360720, 63359357, 63361699 where the changeset comment is: revert buggy automatic edit to traffic sign directions by yopaseopor - contrary to what is claimed, there is no consensus on the tagging list about this

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changesets 63360720, 63359357, 63361699 where the changeset comment is: revert buggy automatic edit to traffic sign directions by yopaseopor - contrary to what is claimed, there is no consensus on the tagging list about this

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changesets 63360720, 63359357, 63361699 where the changeset comment is: revert buggy automatic edit to traffic sign directions by yopaseopor - contrary to what is claimed, there is no consensus on the tagging list about this

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changesets 63360720, 63359357, 63361699 where the changeset comment is: revert buggy automatic edit to traffic sign directions by yopaseopor - contrary to what is claimed, there is no consensus on the tagging list about this

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changesets 63360720, 63359357, 63361699 where the changeset comment is: revert buggy automatic edit to traffic sign directions by yopaseopor - contrary to what is claimed, there is no consensus on the tagging list about this

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changesets 63360720, 63359357, 63361699 where the changeset comment is: revert buggy automatic edit to traffic sign directions by yopaseopor - contrary to what is claimed, there is no consensus on the tagging list about this