Lancelot_777 blocked by woodpeck
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Dear user Lancelot_777,
you are in disagreement with user Mazda05 about some border crossings in the Russian-occupied parts of Ukraine that Mazda05 tags with “access=no”, yet you say that you drive along there every day and you remove the “access=no” tag again.
Please do not do that.
The area in question is still technically part of Ukraine, and hence Ukraine gets to say what is legal there and what is not legal. If the Ukrainian government says it is not legal to cross the border there, then access=no is the correct tagging.
You are right when you say that nobody in the region cares about what the Ukrainian government says and that Ukraine does not, in fact, control this border crossing. However, the “access” tag is not about who can use a road, but who is legally allowed to use it, and until a peace treaty is signed between Russia and Ukraine and the border is legally changed, it is Ukrainian law that the access tag refers to.
You can, if you want to, invent a new tag that documents “practical” access (for example “access:practical”, see also https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=practical), and use that to document the fact that while access is legally forbidden, it is practically possible. You would of course have to use a modified routing engine that disregards “access=no” when “access:practical=yes” is present (or you can use a routing engine that disregards access tags altogether,
Best regards
Frederik Ramm
OSMF Data Working Group
Ticket#2025061910000219