OpenStreetMap
I noticed these streets weren't in the OpenStreetMap database, so I added them from my own knowledge, using GoogleMaps and KiwiMaps data for correlation and to check spelling. I also added some of the local amenities, at least ones where there are icons I can use.
Changes include the following:
* addition of Glenconnor Place at the end of Cossar Street, as Cossar Street doesn't actually go around the corner.
* Change of roundabout into traffic lights. As yet, I haven't seen this on any satellite maps of the area, but I know the work was done as I've been through the intersection several times over the past three months.
* Addition of street names for the street I live in, and adjoining streets. Their placements are unchanged, as they were already in the OSM database, except for the aforementioned Glenconnor Place. My comment below about Baynes Place is actually incorrect, I meant to write Glenconnor, but had a forgetful moment.
* addition of local shops and a postal box in their approximate positions. I can't
plot accurately, as my GPS software on my iPAQ requires a network connection to work, and that's a GoogleMaps application. I'm currently trying to get GPS plus Navit (an application for the PocketPC series) to work sanely, but I'll let you know what luck I have.
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2010년 10월 23일 08:41에 Ainsworth님의 의견
Hi,
You musn't use googlemaps as a datasource, please read this:
osm.wiki/Copyright
2010년 10월 23일 09:29에 Sanderd17님의 의견
Sorry, but your streets will have to be removed, you mustn't use google maps as said above. Once you removed the streets, you can track them with a GPS, the GPS trace is the evidence you were there and you really mapped them yourself.
2010년 10월 23일 11:44에 marscot님의 의견
I agree, also Google maps have errors like wrong street names and roads that don`t connect to the right road, which we don`t want added. Please do add to the map but not using maps that are in copyright.
2010년 10월 24일 03:56에 compdude님의 의견
DO NOT copy from google maps or any other map that has a copyright! This is not only illegal but there's a possibility that google maps may be wrong.
2010년 10월 24일 08:54에 derKuchen님의 의견
In those cases it's much better to map missing streets by instinct. Especially if you don't have a gps. Just tag them with 'FIXME=vague position' and all will be fine.
2010년 10월 26일 02:43에 BrickViking님의 의견
The street positions have already been plotted in the OpenMap, however I needed to check their spelling against two other reputable sources. Also, I note that a roundabout on the corner of Travis Road and Burwood road has become a set of traffic lights. This work was done about three months ago, so won't have shown up on the most recent satellite imagery available.
I apologise for having to use other sources for verification, but what else do I use?
Thanks for your replies.
2010년 10월 26일 02:46에 BrickViking님의 의견
To make it slightly clearer, what was missing in OSM was the street names, not their positions (although I have had to move points for Baynes because Cossar Street doesn't go around the corner, it heads into Baynes Place). The positions were fine, except the one example I've provided. As for shop names, I've eyeballed those myself, so I know that if those are incorrect, then so is their signage.
2010년 10월 27일 07:51에 BlueMM님의 의견
You can't verify the names with other sources, unless they are public domain or license is suitable for OSM. I see it as the whole point of OSM, if people add or verify (& potentially change) data from copyrighted sources, it's tainted & not really free anymore. It also makes the efforts of all the OSM people "doing it the right way" seem cheated :P
In Melbourne we were using out-of-copyright maps from Melbourne Metro Board of Works (water utility). But visiting the streets and noting the name is the way to go (grabbing a photo of the street sign is ultimate - proof that you were there & got the name directly from the sign).
2010년 10월 28일 21:52에 BrickViking님의 의견
Right you are. Did that last night for two of the streets I've added, but now I have a problem. We have a couple of new streets in our area that aren't on the Yahoo satellite picture (as that was done back in 2006 or so), but as I don't seem to have GPS working yet, I can't add any plots. What would you advise? Sorry if this is a FAQ, but I haven't actually seen a list of those yet.
I can certainly take photos of street signs, and if I was insane, I could even take a whole series of photographs. My problem about photos is mis-registration (scale, x/y/z, field-of-view, the whole measurement thing) so I've been wary of that whole idea.
Cheers.
2010년 11월 1일 04:50에 Rovastar님의 의견
What on earth is wrong with verifying?
There is nothing wrong with that at all.
I know from mailing list chats years ago many are paranoid about copyright sources but there is nothing at all with checking it with what you think is the correct street name.
If you get a situation where the names are different you can recheck this yourself.
And taking photos of the street signs is way over the top, what are you people on?
If you know of the streets you could guestimate the locations of them in certain scenerios. e.g. A new road that connects road a to road b and certain points in a straight line. Again I would see nothing wrong, and I cannot imagine legally how anything can be wrong with verifying this with other sources, as long as you don't change anything.
The purists will no doubt pipe up again now but if someone can state legally why this breaks any copyright I am all ears. I am so confused why you make it so difficult for yourselves at times.